Charles would have seen Harry if he wanted – but he’s boiling with anger

Charles would have seen Harry if he wanted – but he’s boiling with anger

knew that uh he had wanted uh he had wanted the meeting and that it was the palace side who had stopped it from happening the the palace side or do you think it was the king himself I mean because remember Harry we both read spare and we both seen all the documentaries he’s done he’s he’s he’s he’s not pulled punches about the people that were around the late queen or you know he had nicknames for certain private secretaries he was less than complimentary by by people about people in the Royal household do you think it was a royal household that kept them apart or is the King’s choice that he didn’t want to see his son I think ultimately if the king had wanted to see Harry the king would have seen Harry I mean I’m sure that Harry probably had some some time dealing with the staff who we know that he hates you know um and that was probably a difficult uh and frustrating experience for him that he didn’t enjoy but I think if the king had wanted to meet Harry the king would have met Harry yeah um and you know honestly it’s sad like I completely understand that there’s a lot of anger towards Harry and I understand why um and not just just within the royal family but also publicly you know he’s not a hugely popular man in Britain anymore um but I think one thing that the Royals that Charles and William should take really seriously is the framing for this visit was the military and Veterans Harry was here to celebrate project that was launched as a royal project it was launched while he was a working royal family member as you’ve said Charles and William they all showed out to support it back in 2014 it’s a fantastic project uh you’ve got the government where um you know were represented Johnny merca turned out to support Harry in fact on the Tuesday um he was at a conference with Harry um so if the government you know conservative government they’re going to be Pro monarchy voters you know and probably a lot of conservative voters don’t like Harry very much but if Johnny Mercer can see as veterans Minister that the project shines brighter than people’s feelings about Harry then the Royal should be able to see that too well let’s talk about that invictor ceremony a little bit I was there I was very lucky enough to I was quite high up in the seats I had to bring binoculars to see what was going on op glasses did you have the op glass I didn’t I had binoculars um because you’re quite a long the Press quite a long way away from the actual ceremony and it was clear that no members of the Roy family would turn up as as we were talking about earlier but there were a lot of people there we had we had Marco with Mark Dy which which are an old friend of figure in Harry’s life major figure in Harry’s life um some Jamie LV Pinkerton his former um Mentor was also there and he was surrounded by people who you know who like him um one of the most provocative possibly that might that’s my word provocative um guest would have been Earl Spencer which is Princess Diana’s brother now he famously at Diana’s um funeral with with a very strongly worded speech that and address that they got a round of applause from people outside outside Westminster Abby talked about blood family and blood relatives and and and looking after William and Harry he doesn’t get on with King Charles but he was there with uh with Diana’s sister um and some cousins to support Harry what do you what do you make of that in a kind of PR opportunity but also you know uh to show Family relations what do you make of that show of support from Diana’s family yeah it reignites the framing that existed in the 1990s which is basically so you mentioned Charles’s Charles Spence’s speech at Di’s funeral he said you know we and Diana’s blood family will raise these two boys up so that they are not caged by duty but can be free to become the well-rounded people you wanted them to be it was an incredibly powerful moment but it was also you know all the Royals were sat there including the queen listening to him say this and it was a very explicit attack on them um so yeah obviously there’s some bad blood in the history between the two charleses um but also you know the allegation against the monarchy back in those days after Princess Diana died was emotional indifference you know there was also this whole thing about whether they were going to come down from Bal moral whether they were going to see floral tributes it was all like you know the headline in the sun I think was where is our Queen uh you know where is her flag um so uh what Harry’s done here what Harry’s been able to do is you know the Spen has turned out to show him love and warmth and to show him respect for this project at his big moment it’s big thing to have your project recognized at St Paul’s Cathedral with our service of Thanksgiving with all these people in attendance Damen Lewis reading a poem brilliant actor um and the spences were there and Charles wasn’t and William wasn’t and it it’s back to that framing of the Royals are emotionally indifferent and the warmth come from comes from Diana’s side of the family um and so you know a lot this is the strange thing about Harry is that he has done some things that made people very angry with him throwing hand grenades at his family criticizing people spilling Royal secrets in this book but the better he behaves the more the criticism shifts off him and it risks passing on to the Royals so when he actually behaves himself and does things the way he’s supposed to do them doesn’t criticize people and doesn’t throw hand grenades certain underlying tensions bubble to the surface like often actually related to his milit military career and his War record it was the same thing with where whether he was going to wear his military uniform to support Queen Elizabeth II um in the runup to her funeral and the monarchy started taking some serious criticism over the fact that he wasn’t going to be allowed to and right back in those days he did it right he was wasn’t criticizing anybody he played the game you know he turned up with William and Kate to do the job um in Windsor um and when he behaves himself that is when the monarchy is actually it’s most vulnerable um and that really is what has happened here is I think that um Charles and William maybe did not realize that the greatest threat to them is actually Harry behaving himself so we often look at this through you know a journalistic kind of media bubble through our lens and and work out you know who maybe has won the pr War here but Charles Charles’s diary was busy I understand why the king is utterly furious with Harry right I mean you know let’s get to the point you mentioned about hand grenades and insults and stuff like that the trashing of the family you know has has been Dreadful the pr that that Harry has has failed in the last couple of years and now you’re suggesting that he’s behaving himself you’re right both him and The Duchess of Sussex have kind of detoxified themselves they haven’t been criticizing um anyone but there is a there is a danger that you’re pointing out there that um public sentiment could could shift but I I think there’s so much water under the bridge that I think many people still feel incredibly bitter um towards Harry towards har of course they do absolutely and they will for a long time it’ll be years before people forget um Harry and Megan you know disliked by ran about two-thirds of Britain I think um and Harry used to be you know he used to be liked by 80% of Britain and Megan as well she was she was liked by 55% of Britain right up until the moment they quit you know through that whole year in 2019 when they say that they were pillared by the British press um the British public actually loved her at the point that they announced their engagement which was November 2017 Megan was liked by 55% of Brits uh in November 2019 when they quit right before they quit last polling before they quit in the January of 2020 she was liked by 55% of Brits so they maintain their popularity through their whole royal career the point at which it started to go downhill was first when they quit then when they did Oprah and obviously spare also made people very angry with them um but one of the ways that the royal family weathered that storm and came out predominantly on top winning the pr war of those big kind of bombshell interviews was that they didn’t fight back and it’s very uh unseemly uh and uncomfortable for the P public to watch a person repeatedly attack his own family in a context where they aren’t fighting back but the one thing that um the Royal should be slightly cautious of is if now looks like he’s the warm one and he’s playing ball and he wants peace the public predominantly overwhelmingly predominantly want to see peace rign you know they don’t want the war to continue and if it looks like Harry is a partner for peace but Charles is shunning him and snubbing him um there is a risk that the it flips and it looks like uh Harry is the one who’s not fighting back um and that is actually where the risk to them lies

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02:00 Inside Harry’s Invictus ceremony
03:10 What does it mean that Earl Spencer was there at the Invictus ceremony?
04:45 The better Harry behaves the more the criticism shifts off him
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