France election: Third-place candidates withdraw in bid to block far right
July 2, 2024
France election: Third-place candidates withdraw in bid to block far right
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3m98j3zpyo
by GalaadJoachim
17 comments
> In more than half of constituencies – around 300 – three candidates qualified from the first round of voting (nearly everywhere else it was just two). If in these constituencies one of the two non-RN runners stands aside, this increases the chances of the RN candidate being defeated.
> By midday Tuesday around 200 candidates from the left and centre were understood to have taken the step. Parties have until 18:00 (17:00 BST) Tuesday evening to register contenders for Sunday.
> The left-wing New Popular Front (NPF) – which comprises everyone from centre-left social democrats to far-left anti-capitalists – issued instructions to all of its third-placed candidates to step down and let a centrist reap the anti-RN vote.
> The NPF is thus helping two senior pro-Macron MPs – former prime minister Elisabeth Borne and Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin – to win in their constituencies in Normandy and the north.
> Conversely a pro-Macron candidate has stood down in order to help radical left-winger François Ruffin defeat the RN candidate in the northern city of Amiens.
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Exactly as the system intended.
Or what, you think france made this complicated two round system to elect extremists in a near three-way-tie?
You know that your political discourse has gone in really bad direction that almost all other political groups has to mobilise to counter far right party.
Democracy is only good if my (leftist) party wins. Part… Aw damn, I lost the count…
And exactly this is why fptp is a stupid system.
Group A: Democracy!
Group B: Wins
Group A: Noooooooo not like that
Good on them honestly, liberals and leftists losing sight of the forest for the trees is what fascists prey upon to take power, unity is important
“Normally fuck you, but I hate Le Pen more.”~ A lot of third place candidates
Also if Le Pen fails to reach the mayority, I immagine the Left will have a lot of influence on the new French government
One way or another, Macron’s centrism is dead
How about mainstream parties solve the immigration problem by stopping irregular immigration? That would remove the whole reason why we have far right to begin with.
For the love of god French people, we don’t need a Frexit or any of the other bullshit Le Pen sells you. Think for 2 seconds before you vote
They called this snap election to let the right win.
There is a regularly scheduled election coming up soon.
Let the people see what a shit show the right is when they catch the proverbial car, then wipe them out in the regular election.
It’s not hard for other party’s to kill the far right, take care of illegal immigration and pseudo refugees and nobody will vote for the far right.
Bonus points if they actually work on the economy of the ordinary people too and not just the rich.
This goes for all European countries to be fair.
Can someone who understands the French electoral system clarify this for me? If there are 3 parties without a majority, and all 3 go to the elections, is it possible that in the end there won’t be an absolute majority? What would happen in that case? Parliamentary agreements between Macron’s party and the left? Is that viable in the French political system?
What does the left fear so much about a fair election where voters decide who they want to elect?
If a far right party gets in office, its because the electorate wanted one. And yet the left would ignore the wishes of the electorate?
Sounds like you guys are experiencing the steps that eventually lead to a 2 party system. Consolidated political groups that keep other consolidated political groups from taking power.
They’ll have to float closer to the middle each election to capture larger voter share over the other.
Why do people in this sub defend the European far right by saying “it’s what the people want, the left and centre should have listened to the voters on inmigration”
But when it comes to thr US, noone says the same about Trump and the republicans?
How come this sub défends the European far right as legitimate but not the American far right
17 comments
> In more than half of constituencies – around 300 – three candidates qualified from the first round of voting (nearly everywhere else it was just two).
If in these constituencies one of the two non-RN runners stands aside, this increases the chances of the RN candidate being defeated.
> By midday Tuesday around 200 candidates from the left and centre were understood to have taken the step. Parties have until 18:00 (17:00 BST) Tuesday evening to register contenders for Sunday.
> The left-wing New Popular Front (NPF) – which comprises everyone from centre-left social democrats to far-left anti-capitalists – issued instructions to all of its third-placed candidates to step down and let a centrist reap the anti-RN vote.
> The NPF is thus helping two senior pro-Macron MPs – former prime minister Elisabeth Borne and Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin – to win in their constituencies in Normandy and the north.
> Conversely a pro-Macron candidate has stood down in order to help radical left-winger François Ruffin defeat the RN candidate in the northern city of Amiens.
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Exactly as the system intended.
Or what, you think france made this complicated two round system to elect extremists in a near three-way-tie?
You know that your political discourse has gone in really bad direction that almost all other political groups has to mobilise to counter far right party.
Democracy is only good if my (leftist) party wins. Part… Aw damn, I lost the count…
And exactly this is why fptp is a stupid system.
Group A: Democracy!
Group B: Wins
Group A: Noooooooo not like that
Good on them honestly, liberals and leftists losing sight of the forest for the trees is what fascists prey upon to take power, unity is important
“Normally fuck you, but I hate Le Pen more.”~ A lot of third place candidates
Also if Le Pen fails to reach the mayority, I immagine the Left will have a lot of influence on the new French government
One way or another, Macron’s centrism is dead
How about mainstream parties solve the immigration problem by stopping irregular immigration? That would remove the whole reason why we have far right to begin with.
For the love of god French people, we don’t need a Frexit or any of the other bullshit Le Pen sells you. Think for 2 seconds before you vote
They called this snap election to let the right win.
There is a regularly scheduled election coming up soon.
Let the people see what a shit show the right is when they catch the proverbial car, then wipe them out in the regular election.
It’s not hard for other party’s to kill the far right, take care of illegal immigration and pseudo refugees and nobody will vote for the far right.
Bonus points if they actually work on the economy of the ordinary people too and not just the rich.
This goes for all European countries to be fair.
Can someone who understands the French electoral system clarify this for me? If there are 3 parties without a majority, and all 3 go to the elections, is it possible that in the end there won’t be an absolute majority? What would happen in that case? Parliamentary agreements between Macron’s party and the left? Is that viable in the French political system?
What does the left fear so much about a fair election where voters decide who they want to elect?
If a far right party gets in office, its because the electorate wanted one. And yet the left would ignore the wishes of the electorate?
Sounds like you guys are experiencing the steps that eventually lead to a 2 party system. Consolidated political groups that keep other consolidated political groups from taking power.
They’ll have to float closer to the middle each election to capture larger voter share over the other.
Why do people in this sub defend the European far right by saying “it’s what the people want, the left and centre should have listened to the voters on inmigration”
But when it comes to thr US, noone says the same about Trump and the republicans?
How come this sub défends the European far right as legitimate but not the American far right