Über 6.500 Samsung-Arbeiter legen wegen Lohn- und Urlaubsansprüchen die Fließbänder nieder
July 8, 2024
Über 6.500 Samsung-Arbeiter legen wegen Lohn- und Urlaubsansprüchen die Fließbänder nieder
https://mybs.in/2dXLp7o
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The striking workers won’t get paid for not working but upper management and shareholders will take greater loss on profits for each day the line stay idle.
Good luck to the strikers. I hope they can hang tight until CEO yelp first.
I mean , sure this is awful, but who is in power here? Not the workers, they can be replaced by another, there is plenty of people who would work for samsung considering how high unemployment rate is in korea
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://mybs.in/2dXLp7o) reduced by 89%. (I’m a bot) ***** > More than 6,500 Samsung Electronics Co. workers walked off the job Monday to stage a rally demanding better pay, beginning the biggest organised labor action in the South Korean conglomerate's half-century history.
> Samsung's largest union has spent weeks preparing for the walkout, after negotiations over pay and vacation time collapsed last month.
> Now, the National Samsung Electronics Union – the largest of the tech giant's several unions with some 30,000-plus workers – says it's escalating things because of a breakdown in pay talks, after initially seeking a less dramatic resolution.
Hopefully the Samsung Health app will count their steps correctly for once
Union ✊
One reason why I buy samsung phones, etc is because I support union workers worldwide
To anyone asking why they don’t just fire them all and get new guys: My job is quality, health and safety in a factory-like environment. I assure you that even in the case of completely “unskilled” work you cannot simply replace people like underwear, let alone your entire 6500-strong workforce.
Let’s say you run a factory. The old hand working there ten years is going to assemble parts something like 3 to 5 times faster than a complete newbie – seriously the gap in productivity is that high. The old hand will be able to put everything together eyes closed with pure muscle memory while the newbie is trying to make sure they haven’t made any mistakes. If the job is in quality control, the newbie will miss faults at a rate *multiple times* higher than a veteran.
Work at a factory does not transfer well between different industries. Assembly at a cell phone plant is going to involve very different skills than a car factory. In fact, because of the assembly-line specialization of stations, even transferring a guy to a different station *in the same factory* is going to be less efficient than putting him at the station he spent years doing.
Want to replace the veteran who is striking? You end up with a brand new workforce that operates at a fraction of the speed. What about machines? You think newbies are gonna safely operate them without breaking your million-dollar investment, without the guidance of senior staff? Who going to teach them how to clear a malfunction? You also get a whole chunk of poor workers (like teenagers who just want vacation/weed money and intend to fuck off in three months) which you are gonna have to sift through in order to trim your workforce into efficiency. This process will take literally years, and by then the quality drop may cripple your company compared to competitors.
This is just for the lowest, rank-and-file worker. Now try replacing supervisors, who are low enough rank to join that strike. We are talking about people who have a proven track record of the factory operations, paperwork, and organizational ability. You know how hard it is to find people talented in all three? You know how hard it is to find people talented in all three who don’t want to transition to office work? Right now if a bunch of people call in sick, one of the supervisors will step into that position and do the fucking job so well your head will spin. Personally I could survive firing a bunch of the line staff (all the newer ones, and this turnover happens anyway), but if I had to fire half the supervisors I would tell management they are totally fucked.
A factory workforce is something you cultivate like a bonsai. You can’t just hire 6500 people off the street and expect them to work everything properly at a consistent rate.
Move the line to china you won’t have a problem
samsung is like 13% of the country’s economy so this is like a general strike
Huh, there was some union representatives handing out fliers for this strike last week. I don’t think anyone in the offices/R&D participated though.
Hey HR could you guys get the 7000 clones in the basement…
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The striking workers won’t get paid for not working but upper management and shareholders will take greater loss on profits for each day the line stay idle.
Good luck to the strikers. I hope they can hang tight until CEO yelp first.
I mean , sure this is awful, but who is in power here? Not the workers, they can be replaced by another, there is plenty of people who would work for samsung considering how high unemployment rate is in korea
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://mybs.in/2dXLp7o) reduced by 89%. (I’m a bot)
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> More than 6,500 Samsung Electronics Co. workers walked off the job Monday to stage a rally demanding better pay, beginning the biggest organised labor action in the South Korean conglomerate's half-century history.
> Samsung's largest union has spent weeks preparing for the walkout, after negotiations over pay and vacation time collapsed last month.
> Now, the National Samsung Electronics Union – the largest of the tech giant's several unions with some 30,000-plus workers – says it's escalating things because of a breakdown in pay talks, after initially seeking a less dramatic resolution.
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Hopefully the Samsung Health app will count their steps correctly for once
Union ✊
One reason why I buy samsung phones, etc is because I support union workers worldwide
To anyone asking why they don’t just fire them all and get new guys: My job is quality, health and safety in a factory-like environment. I assure you that even in the case of completely “unskilled” work you cannot simply replace people like underwear, let alone your entire 6500-strong workforce.
Let’s say you run a factory. The old hand working there ten years is going to assemble parts something like 3 to 5 times faster than a complete newbie – seriously the gap in productivity is that high. The old hand will be able to put everything together eyes closed with pure muscle memory while the newbie is trying to make sure they haven’t made any mistakes. If the job is in quality control, the newbie will miss faults at a rate *multiple times* higher than a veteran.
Work at a factory does not transfer well between different industries. Assembly at a cell phone plant is going to involve very different skills than a car factory. In fact, because of the assembly-line specialization of stations, even transferring a guy to a different station *in the same factory* is going to be less efficient than putting him at the station he spent years doing.
Want to replace the veteran who is striking? You end up with a brand new workforce that operates at a fraction of the speed. What about machines? You think newbies are gonna safely operate them without breaking your million-dollar investment, without the guidance of senior staff? Who going to teach them how to clear a malfunction? You also get a whole chunk of poor workers (like teenagers who just want vacation/weed money and intend to fuck off in three months) which you are gonna have to sift through in order to trim your workforce into efficiency. This process will take literally years, and by then the quality drop may cripple your company compared to competitors.
This is just for the lowest, rank-and-file worker. Now try replacing supervisors, who are low enough rank to join that strike. We are talking about people who have a proven track record of the factory operations, paperwork, and organizational ability. You know how hard it is to find people talented in all three? You know how hard it is to find people talented in all three who don’t want to transition to office work? Right now if a bunch of people call in sick, one of the supervisors will step into that position and do the fucking job so well your head will spin. Personally I could survive firing a bunch of the line staff (all the newer ones, and this turnover happens anyway), but if I had to fire half the supervisors I would tell management they are totally fucked.
A factory workforce is something you cultivate like a bonsai. You can’t just hire 6500 people off the street and expect them to work everything properly at a consistent rate.
Move the line to china you won’t have a problem
samsung is like 13% of the country’s economy so this is like a general strike
Huh, there was some union representatives handing out fliers for this strike last week. I don’t think anyone in the offices/R&D participated though.
Hey HR could you guys get the 7000 clones in the basement…