They are so stupid and shortsighted. Animal farming isn’t sustainable for the world, whether people like it or not a radical change will happen which will probably be labgrown meat. Eventually they will find a way to make it cheap and massproduce and those goverments won’t be able stop it then.
Paywalled.
Embarassing
If Hungary is against it, I’m for it.
Crazy to see comments.
I think A bad, he does B. So B is bad.
They can both eat my lab-grown pepperoni
Fuck both of them sideways. Meat production is the most unproductive industry in the world requiring a shit ton of land, animal suffering and crazy amount of logistic. To anyone who opposes challenging current status quo big fuck you.
It’s obviously the future, even if it still has a long way to go. And it’s not like there aren’t natural meat products of absolutely vile quality out there.
The heroes that we didn’t deserve, but needed.
We have let vested interests corrupt our politics to a level that they don’t do what’s right any more. And that’s not only with the Meloni’s and Orban’s of this world.
It’s such a shame that our elderly electorate allows such politicians to be in power. Another thing we can thank babyboomers for, though you do see quite a big Andrew-Tate-ish conservatism among young men recently.
The meat industry is as bad as oil arseholes but less visible. This new tech gets them more headlines as the villains that they are
And would you guess that, it’s to protect the meat industry as lab-grown would be much cheaper.
God I hate lobbies, corporations should be forbidden from doing that.
Im a meat eater. Like. I eat a lot of meat. Love it. Can’t get enough!
But if I had the choice of meat from a lab, or meat from a slaughtered cow I would, given that the lab meat is safe, tastes the same and is comparatively priced, I would always choose the lab meat.
I mean come on. What *culture* are we protecting by not allowing this shit? It’s not food culture to murder cows, is it? I mean, if it is, I think that’s part of our culture we can leave behind
These bastards are still wanting to continue to torture animals, create huge damage to environment, although it’s obvious that their old insane way of producing meat will become extinct
Our right-wing government is all about small-medium businesses that are stuck in the past (they say its “tradition”) and don’t invest in R&D. They want to protect their voters even if it hurts the climate
My only concern is that technology is relatively new, so there could be some long term health effects we just don’t now about like with vaping for example. But just outright banning it is nuts.
Lobbying is strong on this one, but science will prevail.
Don’t know why any government wants to engage in any kind of constructive work with Hungary. They need to be ostracized and removed from all Western institutions ASAP.
Well, I guess we’ll let the US completely dominate this upcoming industry as well
Molto bene. If this was truly innovative and not cost intensive ie taxpayers subsidizing the “green” grifters unlike solar power, then there will be actual demand for it and not just for redditors.
Factories won’t replace cows, they will replace slaughterhouses. Cows will continue to graze the fields, only that they won’t be killed anymore.
Hungary and Italy join forces to chop up lab-grown meat
Alistair Keepe
Jesse Pinster
An aggressive lobby against cultured meat has moved from European countries led by conservative right wing governments to Brussels. While Dutch and French companies invest heavily in this potential replacement for greenhouse-gas intensive livestock production, politicians such as Italy’s Giorgia Meloni and Hungary’s Viktor Orbán are fighting hand-in-hand with some major agricultural interest groups to discredit what they call “Frankenstein meat”.
“No better time to talk about preserving European food traditions than over lunch,” said a senior Hungarian diplomat at a 15 July closed-door briefing for the press. The occasion was the first meeting of European agriculture ministers since Hungary took over the EU presidency at the beginning of the month, giving Viktor Orbán’s right wing government the opportunity to largely define the agenda of the Council of the EU for the next six months, until the rotating presidency is turned over.
A few days before the ministerial lunch, agriculture ministers received a preparatory note. It opened as follows: “When we talk about European food traditions and traditional food, we think of pizza, paella, schnitzel and moules-frites.”
During the lunch, the Hungarians were particularly keen to discuss what they saw as a threat to such hearty dishes, the product of generations of a proud cultural history: plant-based meat substitutes such as burgers and sausages made from processed soy and additional ingredients, insects pushed by some as a healthy, climate friendly protein source, and – perhaps most threatening of all – cultured meat. The fear is that cows grazing in the fields are being replaced by factories owned by big multinationals producing slabs of lab-grown meat.
Cultured meat is grown in a lab from stem cells, which are taken from a small piece of a live animal in a harmless biopsy process. Fed nutrients in a bioreactor, in a process similar to what is used to develop vaccines, the cells grow into flesh with the same DNA as the donor animal. Millions of kilograms of meat that is genetically indistinguishable from a steak in a restaurant can therefore be developed from a single beef cattle.
European governments with a strong nationalist agenda, such as Orbán’s, fear that the EU will not be able to assess the “broad societal implications” of cultured meat if it merely follows existing food safety guidelines.
The European Commission first has to approve a new food product, such as cultured meat, before it can be introduced on the European market. A new food product such as cultured meat can not just be introduced to the European market. The European Food and Product Safety Authority (EFSA) then carries out all kinds of tests to ensure the safety of the new product.
Orbán and his allies say this is not enough. On the EU stage they claim they have only the best interest of the consumers at heart, but their actions at home tell a different story. Although they do not openly call for an EU-wide ban on cultured meat, they push to make the entry of lab-meat to the market as hard as possible in the name of protecting the traditional cuisine, and the cultural values attached to it.
The Hungarian prime-minister is not the first, and certainly not the only European leader to oppose cultured meat in Brussels. Italy became the first country to ban lab-grown meat, in late 2023, and in a recent manifesto Giorgia Meloni’s party Fratelli d’Italia pledged to “continue the fight against the production and marketing of synthetic meat and food”.
In early July, Hungary announced its own national ban on cultured meat. In retrospect, this appears to have been just another move in an EU-wide strategy. “The issue of cultivated meat has emerged in Council discussions in the last couple of months. Hungary shares the concerns regarding uncertainties around the production and future role of such products,” government spokesperson Dávid Oravecz said.
Cultured meat crashed onto the Brussels agenda at the start of this year. During a meeting of European agriculture ministers in January, the Austrian, French and Italian delegations presented a note raising critical questions about European testing procedures regarding cultured meat. “New lab-grown artificial cell-based food production practices … represent a threat to primary farm-based approaches and genuine food production methods that are at the very heart of the European farming model,” the note reads. The paper was supported by delegations from 10 other member states.
An EU diplomat, who asked not to be named when discussing internal Council matters, says that the informal lunch organised by Hungary during the Agriculture and Fisheries Council in mid-July was a direct consequence of this note. “In particular, countries with a large agricultural sector and a strong food culture, such as France, Austria and Italy, are concerned about the development of cultured meat in Europe,” the diplomat told FTM.
Daily reminder not to vote for fascists if you don’t want to go back to the middle ages.
Putting so many efforts to stop any form of progres, fuck I Hate conservatives
Well, Italy produces A LOT of processed meat (prosciutto, salame, mortadella I.e. ) and in general meat is a very strong part of the Italian kitchen culture.
You can do a lot to Italians, just don’t touch their food
Oh yes. Let’s just block innovation as it is happening to make sure that all the companies that will be active in the space when it is a mature technology will not be European.
Italian government is made of idiots, Hungarian goes without saying.
Unfortunately both countries have enough idiots to vote such governments
I suppose they want to go hungary in the future…
* Breed cows and pigs for centuries until they are unnaturally shaped and would never survive in the wild
* Rear them in intensive farms requiring mass exploitation of land for pasture and crops.
* Pump them with antibiotics to keep disease at bay that would otherwise easily spread
* Slaughter them in concrete warehouses with electricity.
* Keep the meat unnaturally safe using refrigeration and chemicals until it reaches the consumer
‘How about we just grow the meat in the lab?’
‘No – its unnatural!’
Reject ‘tradition’, embrace modernity kids.
Absolutely pathetic. Canio himself couldn’t assemble a more tragi-comic ensemble than the current administration.
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They are so stupid and shortsighted. Animal farming isn’t sustainable for the world, whether people like it or not a radical change will happen which will probably be labgrown meat. Eventually they will find a way to make it cheap and massproduce and those goverments won’t be able stop it then.
Paywalled.
Embarassing
If Hungary is against it, I’m for it.
Crazy to see comments.
I think A bad, he does B. So B is bad.
They can both eat my lab-grown pepperoni
Fuck both of them sideways. Meat production is the most unproductive industry in the world requiring a shit ton of land, animal suffering and crazy amount of logistic. To anyone who opposes challenging current status quo big fuck you.
It’s obviously the future, even if it still has a long way to go. And it’s not like there aren’t natural meat products of absolutely vile quality out there.
The heroes that we didn’t deserve, but needed.
We have let vested interests corrupt our politics to a level that they don’t do what’s right any more. And that’s not only with the Meloni’s and Orban’s of this world.
It’s such a shame that our elderly electorate allows such politicians to be in power. Another thing we can thank babyboomers for, though you do see quite a big Andrew-Tate-ish conservatism among young men recently.
The meat industry is as bad as oil arseholes but less visible. This new tech gets them more headlines as the villains that they are
And would you guess that, it’s to protect the meat industry as lab-grown would be much cheaper.
God I hate lobbies, corporations should be forbidden from doing that.
Im a meat eater. Like. I eat a lot of meat. Love it. Can’t get enough!
But if I had the choice of meat from a lab, or meat from a slaughtered cow I would, given that the lab meat is safe, tastes the same and is comparatively priced, I would always choose the lab meat.
I mean come on. What *culture* are we protecting by not allowing this shit? It’s not food culture to murder cows, is it? I mean, if it is, I think that’s part of our culture we can leave behind
These bastards are still wanting to continue to torture animals, create huge damage to environment,
although it’s obvious that their old insane way of producing meat will become extinct
Our right-wing government is all about small-medium businesses that are stuck in the past (they say its “tradition”) and don’t invest in R&D. They want to protect their voters even if it hurts the climate
My only concern is that technology is relatively new, so there could be some long term health effects we just don’t now about like with vaping for example. But just outright banning it is nuts.
Lobbying is strong on this one, but science will prevail.
Don’t know why any government wants to engage in any kind of constructive work with Hungary. They need to be ostracized and removed from all Western institutions ASAP.
Well, I guess we’ll let the US completely dominate this upcoming industry as well
Molto bene. If this was truly innovative and not cost intensive ie taxpayers subsidizing the “green” grifters unlike solar power, then there will be actual demand for it and not just for redditors.
Factories won’t replace cows, they will replace slaughterhouses. Cows will continue to graze the fields, only that they won’t be killed anymore.
Hungary and Italy join forces to chop up lab-grown meat
Alistair Keepe
Jesse Pinster
An aggressive lobby against cultured meat has moved from European countries led by conservative right wing governments to Brussels. While Dutch and French companies invest heavily in this potential replacement for greenhouse-gas intensive livestock production, politicians such as Italy’s Giorgia Meloni and Hungary’s Viktor Orbán are fighting hand-in-hand with some major agricultural interest groups to discredit what they call “Frankenstein meat”.
“No better time to talk about preserving European food traditions than over lunch,” said a senior Hungarian diplomat at a 15 July closed-door briefing for the press. The occasion was the first meeting of European agriculture ministers since Hungary took over the EU presidency at the beginning of the month, giving Viktor Orbán’s right wing government the opportunity to largely define the agenda of the Council of the EU for the next six months, until the rotating presidency is turned over.
A few days before the ministerial lunch, agriculture ministers received a preparatory note. It opened as follows: “When we talk about European food traditions and traditional food, we think of pizza, paella, schnitzel and moules-frites.”
During the lunch, the Hungarians were particularly keen to discuss what they saw as a threat to such hearty dishes, the product of generations of a proud cultural history: plant-based meat substitutes such as burgers and sausages made from processed soy and additional ingredients, insects pushed by some as a healthy, climate friendly protein source, and – perhaps most threatening of all – cultured meat. The fear is that cows grazing in the fields are being replaced by factories owned by big multinationals producing slabs of lab-grown meat.
Cultured meat is grown in a lab from stem cells, which are taken from a small piece of a live animal in a harmless biopsy process. Fed nutrients in a bioreactor, in a process similar to what is used to develop vaccines, the cells grow into flesh with the same DNA as the donor animal. Millions of kilograms of meat that is genetically indistinguishable from a steak in a restaurant can therefore be developed from a single beef cattle.
European governments with a strong nationalist agenda, such as Orbán’s, fear that the EU will not be able to assess the “broad societal implications” of cultured meat if it merely follows existing food safety guidelines.
The European Commission first has to approve a new food product, such as cultured meat, before it can be introduced on the European market. A new food product such as cultured meat can not just be introduced to the European market. The European Food and Product Safety Authority (EFSA) then carries out all kinds of tests to ensure the safety of the new product.
Orbán and his allies say this is not enough. On the EU stage they claim they have only the best interest of the consumers at heart, but their actions at home tell a different story. Although they do not openly call for an EU-wide ban on cultured meat, they push to make the entry of lab-meat to the market as hard as possible in the name of protecting the traditional cuisine, and the cultural values attached to it.
The Hungarian prime-minister is not the first, and certainly not the only European leader to oppose cultured meat in Brussels. Italy became the first country to ban lab-grown meat, in late 2023, and in a recent manifesto Giorgia Meloni’s party Fratelli d’Italia pledged to “continue the fight against the production and marketing of synthetic meat and food”.
In early July, Hungary announced its own national ban on cultured meat. In retrospect, this appears to have been just another move in an EU-wide strategy. “The issue of cultivated meat has emerged in Council discussions in the last couple of months. Hungary shares the concerns regarding uncertainties around the production and future role of such products,” government spokesperson Dávid Oravecz said.
Cultured meat crashed onto the Brussels agenda at the start of this year. During a meeting of European agriculture ministers in January, the Austrian, French and Italian delegations presented a note raising critical questions about European testing procedures regarding cultured meat. “New lab-grown artificial cell-based food production practices … represent a threat to primary farm-based approaches and genuine food production methods that are at the very heart of the European farming model,” the note reads. The paper was supported by delegations from 10 other member states.
An EU diplomat, who asked not to be named when discussing internal Council matters, says that the informal lunch organised by Hungary during the Agriculture and Fisheries Council in mid-July was a direct consequence of this note. “In particular, countries with a large agricultural sector and a strong food culture, such as France, Austria and Italy, are concerned about the development of cultured meat in Europe,” the diplomat told FTM.
Daily reminder not to vote for fascists if you don’t want to go back to the middle ages.
Putting so many efforts to stop any form of progres, fuck I Hate conservatives
Well, Italy produces A LOT of processed meat (prosciutto, salame, mortadella I.e. ) and in general meat is a very strong part of the Italian kitchen culture.
You can do a lot to Italians, just don’t touch their food
Oh yes. Let’s just block innovation as it is happening to make sure that all the companies that will be active in the space when it is a mature technology will not be European.
Italian government is made of idiots, Hungarian goes without saying.
Unfortunately both countries have enough idiots to vote such governments
I suppose they want to go hungary in the future…
* Breed cows and pigs for centuries until they are unnaturally shaped and would never survive in the wild
* Rear them in intensive farms requiring mass exploitation of land for pasture and crops.
* Pump them with antibiotics to keep disease at bay that would otherwise easily spread
* Slaughter them in concrete warehouses with electricity.
* Keep the meat unnaturally safe using refrigeration and chemicals until it reaches the consumer
‘How about we just grow the meat in the lab?’
‘No – its unnatural!’
Reject ‘tradition’, embrace modernity kids.
Absolutely pathetic. Canio himself couldn’t assemble a more tragi-comic ensemble than the current administration.