A couple weeks ago Fortune wrote how afforfable travel is to blame for Europe’s overtourism problem. If travel costs are to go up, what does that mean for the Europeans facing holiday poverty?
> Holiday poverty’ is a very real problem … —and Ireland, France, and Italy are leading the pack
>“Too many people are no longer seeing the benefits of Europe’s powerful economy in their everyday lives,” ETUC general secretary Esther Lynch said in a statement.
That’s mostly because Europe’s economy is much less ‘powerful’ than it used to be, our economies have been stagnant pretty much since the 2008 crisis. Plus in many countries, in Italy for example, the benefits of whatever limited growth there was in the past 20 years didn’t go to workers who have seen their salaries decreasing in term of real purchase power.
European workers in many countries are poorer, that’s one of the reasons why vactions less affordable it’s as simple as that.
Plus, of course, there is the influx of foreign tourism that is at least partially another symptom of that, Europe is cheap for American tourists that have more spending money than us. That said I imagine that beeing attractive to foreign turists has some benefit for the local econony at leaast…
Do these people know there are countries East of Austria that are in fact part of Europe?
In 23 years as I was growing up we couldn’t afford to travel ANYWHERE.
The Irish certainly have enough money for multiple holidays every single year so cut the bullshit.
As a migrant from New Zealand where it’s insanely expensive to leave the country for a vacation (for obvious reasons), I’m laughing my ass off about this.
Tbf if social media was anything to go by you would be forgiven for thinking that people these days travel now then ever before
Holiday poverty, lmao. In the early 90’s you were lucky if you went on a holiday to a camp site in your own country. But often we just house sat for friends who actually went on a holiday. My dad was a college professor so we weren’t poor either.
People nowadays expect and demand too much.
It’s a luxury, not a necessity to always go. Maybe we need another 80’s crisis to make people realise what things are considered poverty.
what is “Holiday poverty”
Oh the entitlement… Wait for the “human right” for a holiday away from home showing up in one… two…
Wow great article on West EU’s absolute socioeconomic privilege, thanks!
Imagine this: In Slovakia we have more expensive food and general goods than in any of these countries listed and by average we make 1200€ monthly netto.
Try to imagine living in such economic conditions and then guess how many times an average citizen of our European country went for a vacation aboard during their lifetime?
Get a grip please…
I suffer from yacht poverty.
The fact that this is happening in Ireland, a country with one of the fastests growths in the EU just shows what bullshit “trickledown” is
Braindead article and opinion. This isn‘t holiday poverty. This is poverty. If you can‘t afford to take a holiday that is regular poverty. A holiday IS a luxury.
WTH does holiday poverty even means ?
Bring back Butlins?
Gre up in 80’s/90’s and our yearly holiday was to our grandparents house. It’s not a requirement of life. Yes, it’s certainly nice but it’s doable. We’ve just been exposed to cheaper travel for a while so the expectation is that we must have a holiday abroad.
“A holiday is not a luxury. Having time away with family is key for protecting the physical and mental health of workers along with providing valuable experiences for children,”
I mean, in my life, I’ve had all sorts of holidays at either end of the “luxury” spectrum, but it’s a bit of a stretch to say that a holiday including an extended stay away from home isn’t a luxury.
Just buy some etfs throughout the year
🦅🦅🦅 ROMANIA LEADING THE CHARGE 🦅🦅🦅
Well, Ireland has used about 30% of all tourist beds for asylum seekers, homeless and refugees so no surprise prices are going up.
As someone who has experienced ACTUAL poverty, fuck off.
As a person who works in tourism…. Yeah, no….
Reminds of Americans/europeans who think of top 1% as the biggest world enemy while top 1% actually starts at maybe 33 000$ per year salary.
Americans solved the problem ; no paid vacation, no vacation poverty.
Problem solved!
As a Bulgarian, fuck you.
I grew up not knowing what vacationing in southern Europe (or elsewhere) was like, and I’m perfectly fine. I have fond memories of summers at home, and occasional road trips within the country or to neighboring countries (I’m Norwegian). Others I grew up with had the same experience, and are also fine.
As an adult, I’ve also come to realize that that kind of travel (which is usually the extent of international travel for most people) is pretty lame anyway. I much prefer places where one can experience *real* places and things, and not just huge all-inclusive resorts, largely populated with people from one’s own country.
I’m not saying an increase in poverty is not a huge problem, but this “holiday poverty” angle is pure bullshit.
In Ireland it is normal for people to claim poverty even if they are very wealthy, it is socially unacceptable to be content in Ireland, one must exaggerate the direness of one’s situation, particularly financially,it is physiological phenomenon known as “An Beal Bocht” or The Poor Mouth. By the way did you know we had a famine in Ireland nearly 200 Years ago, woe is me!
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A couple weeks ago Fortune wrote how afforfable travel is to blame for Europe’s overtourism problem. If travel costs are to go up, what does that mean for the Europeans facing holiday poverty?
> Holiday poverty’ is a very real problem … —and Ireland, France, and Italy are leading the pack
Eastern Europeans: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1910812-mel-gibson-talking-to-bloody-jesus
>“Too many people are no longer seeing the benefits of Europe’s powerful economy in their everyday lives,” ETUC general secretary Esther Lynch said in a statement.
That’s mostly because Europe’s economy is much less ‘powerful’ than it used to be, our economies have been stagnant pretty much since the 2008 crisis. Plus in many countries, in Italy for example, the benefits of whatever limited growth there was in the past 20 years didn’t go to workers who have seen their salaries decreasing in term of real purchase power.
European workers in many countries are poorer, that’s one of the reasons why vactions less affordable it’s as simple as that.
Plus, of course, there is the influx of foreign tourism that is at least partially another symptom of that, Europe is cheap for American tourists that have more spending money than us. That said I imagine that beeing attractive to foreign turists has some benefit for the local econony at leaast…
Do these people know there are countries East of Austria that are in fact part of Europe?
In 23 years as I was growing up we couldn’t afford to travel ANYWHERE.
The Irish certainly have enough money for multiple holidays every single year so cut the bullshit.
As a migrant from New Zealand where it’s insanely expensive to leave the country for a vacation (for obvious reasons), I’m laughing my ass off about this.
Tbf if social media was anything to go by you would be forgiven for thinking that people these days travel now then ever before
Holiday poverty, lmao. In the early 90’s you were lucky if you went on a holiday to a camp site in your own country. But often we just house sat for friends who actually went on a holiday. My dad was a college professor so we weren’t poor either.
People nowadays expect and demand too much.
It’s a luxury, not a necessity to always go. Maybe we need another 80’s crisis to make people realise what things are considered poverty.
what is “Holiday poverty”
Oh the entitlement… Wait for the “human right” for a holiday away from home showing up in one… two…
Wow great article on West EU’s absolute socioeconomic privilege, thanks!
Imagine this: In Slovakia we have more expensive food and general goods than in any of these countries listed and by average we make 1200€ monthly netto.
Try to imagine living in such economic conditions and then guess how many times an average citizen of our European country went for a vacation aboard during their lifetime?
Get a grip please…
I suffer from yacht poverty.
The fact that this is happening in Ireland, a country with one of the fastests growths in the EU just shows what bullshit “trickledown” is
Braindead article and opinion. This isn‘t holiday poverty. This is poverty. If you can‘t afford to take a holiday that is regular poverty. A holiday IS a luxury.
WTH does holiday poverty even means ?
Bring back Butlins?
Gre up in 80’s/90’s and our yearly holiday was to our grandparents house. It’s not a requirement of life. Yes, it’s certainly nice but it’s doable. We’ve just been exposed to cheaper travel for a while so the expectation is that we must have a holiday abroad.
“A holiday is not a luxury. Having time away with family is key for protecting the physical and mental health of workers along with providing valuable experiences for children,”
I mean, in my life, I’ve had all sorts of holidays at either end of the “luxury” spectrum, but it’s a bit of a stretch to say that a holiday including an extended stay away from home isn’t a luxury.
Just buy some etfs throughout the year
🦅🦅🦅 ROMANIA LEADING THE CHARGE 🦅🦅🦅
Well, Ireland has used about 30% of all tourist beds for asylum seekers, homeless and refugees so no surprise prices are going up.
As someone who has experienced ACTUAL poverty, fuck off.
As a person who works in tourism…. Yeah, no….
Reminds of Americans/europeans who think of top 1% as the biggest world enemy while top 1% actually starts at maybe 33 000$ per year salary.
Americans solved the problem ; no paid vacation, no vacation poverty.
Problem solved!
As a Bulgarian, fuck you.
I grew up not knowing what vacationing in southern Europe (or elsewhere) was like, and I’m perfectly fine. I have fond memories of summers at home, and occasional road trips within the country or to neighboring countries (I’m Norwegian). Others I grew up with had the same experience, and are also fine.
As an adult, I’ve also come to realize that that kind of travel (which is usually the extent of international travel for most people) is pretty lame anyway. I much prefer places where one can experience *real* places and things, and not just huge all-inclusive resorts, largely populated with people from one’s own country.
I’m not saying an increase in poverty is not a huge problem, but this “holiday poverty” angle is pure bullshit.
In Ireland it is normal for people to claim poverty even if they are very wealthy, it is socially unacceptable to be content in Ireland, one must exaggerate the direness of one’s situation, particularly financially,it is physiological phenomenon known as “An Beal Bocht” or The Poor Mouth. By the way did you know we had a famine in Ireland nearly 200 Years ago, woe is me!