The amount of hate I’m seeing for some damn good swimmers is insane— if you don’t trust the Olympic testing system, you’re just a conspiracy theorist. Chinese athletes are drug tested nearly three times more frequently than other countries— if they were doping, it would’ve been found out
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They were so fast. GG China. Hope USA comes back stronger in LA.
Pan is insane and he’s only 20, generational swimmer
Hopefully Nic Fink isn’t beating himself up about the loss, US would’ve taken gold if he were able to match his split from the mixed medley relay
Nice of the NBC/Peacock tv crew to basically pretend China wasn’t even in this race.
I can already tell the 2028 Olympics will be something else. China is in for a ride lol
Congrats to China! What a swim by Pan
Imagine being tested 7 times a day, interrupted during all your rest periods and still crushing everyone. Phenomenal race.
Pan is simply incredible. The last lap he lead everyone at least 1 second. It is such a pleasure to have him on the last lap.
There’s a lot of misinformation out there regarding this scandal, so I am sharing some FAQs from the official WADA report.
*Why is WADA accepting a trimetazidine (TMZ) contamination explanation in this situation but not with others?*
>Contamination can occur in various forms (e.g. contaminated nutritional supplements, contaminated meat, contaminated water, contamination of medicines). In each case of alleged contamination, the specific contamination scenario must be assessed and tested in order to determine whether it is plausible, compatible with the Adverse Analytical Finding(s) [AAF(s)] and likely to be accepted on the balance of probabilities.
>This was thoroughly done in this case and not only was there no evidence pointing towards a doping scenario, but all the existing evidence was supporting the theory of contamination. Indeed, even leaving aside the fact that TMZ was discovered by the Chinese authorities in the kitchen of the hotel, the analytical results – in particular, the fact that all the positive results were within a tight range at low or very low concentrations, as well as the fact that, where athletes were tested more than once, their results fluctuated between negatives and (low-level) positives a few hours apart – were not consistent with an excretion profile of a deliberate ingestion scenario of TMZ, but rather with some form of contamination.
*Why did WADA not make any publication about these cases?*
>As explained above, CHINADA decided not to charge these athletes and, although WADA did not entirely agree with that decision, WADA did not appeal for the reasons explained.
>As a result, no ADRV was established. As the ADRVs were not asserted, there was no basis in the Code to publish any details about the cases.
>It should be noted that, in recent years, a number of ADOs have argued that publication of cases in which athletes are found to have no fault or negligence (as WADA accepted here) is unfair to the athletes.
>As an example, a recent case that was resolved as no fault by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA), in which the athlete was found to have innocently come into contact with a prohibited substance by administering medication to their dog, USADA CEO Travis Tygart has been publicly quoted as saying the following: “If there is no question that an athlete comes into contact with a prohibited substance from a completely innocent source and there is no effect on performance, USADA continues to advocate that there should not be a violation or a public announcement.”
*Would the swimmers have had any performance benefit as a result of the TMZ?*
>Based on the concentrations of TMZ detected in the athletes’ samples, there would have been no performance benefit during the national competition on 1-3 January 2021, let alone at subsequent events such as the Olympic Games in Tokyo some seven months later. The national event from 1-3 January 2021 was not a qualification event for the Olympic Games and there were no international events held before the Olympic Games in Tokyo.
*Some more general points from the report*
>There were 23 swimmers and 28 positive samples.
>The swimmers were from different regions of China, with different coaches and from different swimming clubs.
>The swimmers were in the same place at the same time when the positive samples arose.
>All of the sample results were at consistently low levels.
> A number of these athletes were tested on multiple occasions during the swim meet. Some of them were tested on three occasions on consecutive days. For several athletes, the results varied from negative to positive a few hours apart, which is not compatible with deliberate ingestion nor micro- dosing.
>Also, one team of athletes stayed in a different hotel. Three of those athletes were tested and none tested positive for TMZ.
**I just think that the media is really biased and not showing the full picture here. I would really suggest people to go through this report to get a clearer picture.**
This comment section has to be what it feels like to be apart of a Trump ralley. Holy fuck this hive mind is scary.
China swimming team is mediocre but PAN is just insane
Well done China! PZL carried the team, what a beast!
Wow he’s tall
If you are going to claim they are dirty then you need to provide evidence for the assertion.
Pan was absolutely incredible, and Qin showed up on the relays which helped china to.
This 19 year old swimmer broke his own 100m WR, but isn’t talked about enough. Everyone was talking about how Ledecky had a full 10 second lead over the 2nd place in her 1500m swim. But this guy beat the 2nd place finisher by a FULL 1 second in a 100m sprint event as he set a new WR. That is just absolute bonkers and unheard of to beat the competition by a full second in such a fast sprint. And just today, he powered China to a 4x100m medley relay win with an ALL TIME fastest 100m split of 45.92 seconds, and is the first man under the 46 second mark!! That is even more bonkers. And he’s just 19 years old. He is not getting the recognition he deserves, and I thought it must be told. What a legend in the making. 🙏🏼
Edit: He turned 20 just today and swam the fastest 100m ever on his birthday. Legendary stuff!
Congrats to the Chinese! US should learn from other countries if they are better. That’s the growing mindset we should have and the only way to keep yourself improved. When we come back in 4 years, we will be better!
I for one welcome our new fish overlords.
Pan is outstanding from what I watched. Well fought from usa.
Swimmers have crazy wide shoulders
Great to see this win, super competitive finish!!
Pretty fitting that Pan Zhanle went bonkers to lead China to their first-ever gold medal in the men’s medley relay event on his 20th birthday!
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First loss for USA in history of 4×100 medley.
The amount of hate I’m seeing for some damn good swimmers is insane— if you don’t trust the Olympic testing system, you’re just a conspiracy theorist. Chinese athletes are drug tested nearly three times more frequently than other countries— if they were doping, it would’ve been found out
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They were so fast. GG China. Hope USA comes back stronger in LA.
Pan is insane and he’s only 20, generational swimmer
Hopefully Nic Fink isn’t beating himself up about the loss, US would’ve taken gold if he were able to match his split from the mixed medley relay
Nice of the NBC/Peacock tv crew to basically pretend China wasn’t even in this race.
I can already tell the 2028 Olympics will be something else. China is in for a ride lol
Congrats to China! What a swim by Pan
Imagine being tested 7 times a day, interrupted during all your rest periods and still crushing everyone. Phenomenal race.
Pan is simply incredible. The last lap he lead everyone at least 1 second. It is such a pleasure to have him on the last lap.
There’s a lot of misinformation out there regarding this scandal, so I am sharing some FAQs from the official WADA report.
*Why is WADA accepting a trimetazidine (TMZ) contamination explanation in this situation but not
with others?*
>Contamination can occur in various forms (e.g. contaminated nutritional supplements, contaminated meat,
contaminated water, contamination of medicines). In each case of alleged contamination, the specific
contamination scenario must be assessed and tested in order to determine whether it is plausible,
compatible with the Adverse Analytical Finding(s) [AAF(s)] and likely to be accepted on the balance of
probabilities.
>This was thoroughly done in this case and not only was there no evidence pointing towards a doping
scenario, but all the existing evidence was supporting the theory of contamination. Indeed, even leaving
aside the fact that TMZ was discovered by the Chinese authorities in the kitchen of the hotel, the analytical
results – in particular, the fact that all the positive results were within a tight range at low or very low
concentrations, as well as the fact that, where athletes were tested more than once, their results fluctuated
between negatives and (low-level) positives a few hours apart – were not consistent with an excretion
profile of a deliberate ingestion scenario of TMZ, but rather with some form of contamination.
*Why did WADA not make any publication about these cases?*
>As explained above, CHINADA decided not to charge these athletes and, although WADA did not entirely agree with that decision, WADA did not appeal for the reasons explained.
>As a result, no ADRV was established. As the ADRVs were not asserted, there was no basis in the Code to publish any details about the cases.
>It should be noted that, in recent years, a number of ADOs have argued that publication of cases in which
athletes are found to have no fault or negligence (as WADA accepted here) is unfair to the athletes.
>As an example, a recent case that was resolved as no fault by the United States Anti-Doping Agency
(USADA), in which the athlete was found to have innocently come into contact with a prohibited substance by administering medication to their dog, USADA CEO Travis Tygart has been publicly quoted as saying
the following: “If there is no question that an athlete comes into contact with a prohibited substance from a
completely innocent source and there is no effect on performance, USADA continues to advocate that there should not be a violation or a public announcement.”
*Would the swimmers have had any performance benefit as a result of the TMZ?*
>Based on the concentrations of TMZ detected in the athletes’ samples, there would have been no
performance benefit during the national competition on 1-3 January 2021, let alone at subsequent events
such as the Olympic Games in Tokyo some seven months later. The national event from 1-3 January 2021
was not a qualification event for the Olympic Games and there were no international events held before the
Olympic Games in Tokyo.
*Some more general points from the report*
>There were 23 swimmers and 28 positive samples.
>The swimmers were from different regions of China, with different coaches and from different swimming
clubs.
>The swimmers were in the same place at the same time when the positive samples arose.
>All of the sample results were at consistently low levels.
> A number of these athletes were tested on multiple occasions during the swim meet. Some of them
were tested on three occasions on consecutive days. For several athletes, the results varied from
negative to positive a few hours apart, which is not compatible with deliberate ingestion nor micro-
dosing.
>Also, one team of athletes stayed in a different hotel. Three of those athletes were tested and none
tested positive for TMZ.
[Official WADA report ](https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/2024-04/2024-04_fact_sheet_faq_chinese_swimming.pdf)
**I just think that the media is really biased and not showing the full picture here. I would really suggest people to go through this report to get a clearer picture.**
This comment section has to be what it feels like to be apart of a Trump ralley. Holy fuck this hive mind is scary.
China swimming team is mediocre but PAN is just insane
Well done China! PZL carried the team, what a beast!
Wow he’s tall
If you are going to claim they are dirty then you need to provide evidence for the assertion.
Pan was absolutely incredible, and Qin showed up on the relays which helped china to.
This 19 year old swimmer broke his own 100m WR, but isn’t talked about enough. Everyone was talking about how Ledecky had a full 10 second lead over the 2nd place in her 1500m swim. But this guy beat the 2nd place finisher by a FULL 1 second in a 100m sprint event as he set a new WR. That is just absolute bonkers and unheard of to beat the competition by a full second in such a fast sprint. And just today, he powered China to a 4x100m medley relay win with an ALL TIME fastest 100m split of 45.92 seconds, and is the first man under the 46 second mark!! That is even more bonkers. And he’s just 19 years old. He is not getting the recognition he deserves, and I thought it must be told. What a legend in the making. 🙏🏼
Edit: He turned 20 just today and swam the fastest 100m ever on his birthday. Legendary stuff!
Congrats to the Chinese!
US should learn from other countries if they are better. That’s the growing mindset we should have and the only way to keep yourself improved.
When we come back in 4 years, we will be better!
I for one welcome our new fish overlords.
Pan is outstanding from what I watched. Well fought from usa.
Swimmers have crazy wide shoulders
Great to see this win, super competitive finish!!
Pretty fitting that Pan Zhanle went bonkers to lead China to their first-ever gold medal in the men’s medley relay event on his 20th birthday!