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Zelensky said a completely new weapon was used for the first time – the Ukrainian drone missile “Palyanitsa”. Could possibly be referring to the ammo depot in Voronezh Oblast that was hit last night

  • August 24, 2024



Zelensky said a completely new weapon was used for the first time – the Ukrainian drone missile “Palyanitsa”. Could possibly be referring to the ammo depot in Voronezh Oblast that was hit last night

by Jensen2075

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  2. It’s the new phase of
    McDonnell Douglas X-36 or Boeing MQ-28 Ghost Bat, which took less than a year to develop and fly.

  4. What a tease – everything except the interesting facts: How fast, how far, how accurate? But then we don’t need to know, and the ruzzians will eventually work it out for us.

    What does the name translate as – (with many apologies) the Ukranian name is a bit of a mouthful. Doubtless there will be lots of nickname suggestions (like Night Fury, or Toothless…)

  5. Best feature of this drone it’s his name. Russian have massive problem when thay trying to spell “Palyanitsa”

  8. Congratulations for Ukraine. It was about time they developed a missile, and a missile/drone might even be a better concept. I don’t know the specifics, but if the speed is over 300 km/h or even more and the range is over 500 kms, then Ukraine is on the rtight track to teach Russia the price of invading another contry. Slava Ukraine!!!

  12. “This could be a game changer depending on what this new weapon is. Watching closely.”

  13. Can we get western long range rockets to strike deep into Russia?

    No, we have long range rockets at home.

  16. Ukraine is going to have the worlds most experienced and competent army when this war is done. Wont suprise me if they will have drone brigades.

  19. I have been waiting for Ukraine to take the drone war into jet powered drones that could strike anywhere inside the vast expanses of the Third World terrorist state and behold Palyantisa.

    Now they can set “orcland” ablaze from end to end.

  22. So fucking crazy that this war has gone on for so long that Ukraine has, thought of, developed and fielded a long range jet propelled drone.

  28. Some time ago Ukraine was demonstrating RC jets. I wonder if this has been developed as a result?

  36. My thought for the next sea baby would be a ground effect vehicle because it would get to the target faster, could not be stopped by any underwater netting and the most fuel efficient

  37. No rudder suggests it uses thrust vectoring. I’ve been suggesting for some time to design dedicated replacement for the A22 and in design of winged drones, tail surfaces can be removed using thrust vectoring. In that embodiment there is also no need for a vertical stabiliser as the yaw and stability comes from wing tip propellers, birds do not need vertical stabilisers because of a principle called ‘proverse yaw’. This design was mainly for a slower long range aircraft, but also other slow drone concepts. Here, pitch is controlled from the wing and it seems likely that thrust is vectored sideways using a vane at the back. As I have said, you can do this in single use drones because they crash anyway whereas for normal aircraft redundant systems are needed for safety.

    It also uses fragmentation warhead where the best design is a ring around the explosive column, which I and others have also suggested, and so to inflict maximum damage then it needs pointing at the ground, indicating that this design pitches into a vertical dive at the final approach and uses altimetry calculation to air burst detonate. But it might just explode on contact.

    Edit to add, I suggested also on another thread designing their own own version of a storm shadow using a micro turbine such as from powered wingsuits or jet packs. This design is indeed doing this. I wouldn’t expect range to be huge but maybe comparable to Storm Shadow? Unlike the storm shadow this design has a much thicker cord of wing, suggesting it’s trading speed for lift and range with bigger fuel tanks and smaller warhead, and so it’s probably flying under 400kmph, maybe not much more than twice the speed of a A22 fox bat and using low altitude to avoid detection. A micro jet can be made more efficient by taking an existing design and using it to power a slower RPM turbine that attaches directly to a ducted fan, to increase bypass ratio, similar to how many turbo props and helicopters are powered.

  39. that jet engine it uses is only $12k retail. if Ukraine can build cruise missiles for only $30k, then they can flood Russia with these to overwhelm their anti-air.

  42. Let’s debrief.

    Since this is the first time an airfield with some kind of shelters has been flown here, we can draw some working conclusions.

    I’ll tell you right away that all the planes capable of taking off had flown away before the attack.

    Of course, the question arises: why are there so many non-flying aircraft at the airfield of a regiment that was recently re-equipped with zero-rated Su-34s?

    The answer is clear: no spare parts, no engines, no units. Why they are not there is not a question of salary.

    And it’s not a fact that only one regiment was based at this airfield. This figure is currently floating.

    Next. Light shelters do not have anti-fragmentation protection, so this protection must be added to them. By all available means. Bags, blocks, piles of earth, boxes with earth – a million ways.

    Who should have done this, and were these capabilities at the airfield – I don’t know. And should they have in general?

    In principle, the shelters at the airfield are already something incredible. Here are hangars from the sponsor. A gift.

    The biggest problem is that the shelters are crowded together.

    Similar shelters are crowded together at almost all airfields, because as I said above, they are not designed to protect against attacks from the air or ground.

    They are designed to protect aircraft and personnel from bad weather and to camouflage aircraft.

    Moreover, they coped with camouflage one hundred percent, even after the defeat, as expected. Until photos appeared, practically from the hangars, it was impossible to assess the extent and quantity of damaged aircraft using only satellites. Even now it is difficult.

    They are crowded together because the hangar must be placed where there are already taxiways to it. Or they must be made individually for each hangar. This is a different amount of money. And different skills and specialization. And if hangars helped, then there are no taxiways to them. That’s why they parked them in the open parking lot, because there was nowhere else.
    Without hangars, the planes would have stood there just the same, only openly, and of course the damage would have been many times greater.

    Well, judging by the photo, ammunition was stored in one of the hangars (standing close together). In a heap. And it was this hangar that the hohols (accidentally or deliberately) hit. And they hit.
    After the ammunition detonated, claims against light shelters were completely removed and the average person wondered, why the hell were they there?

    Ammunition number one is always kept near the planes for the purpose of quickly hanging them on the plane. The UMPKs also need to be attached to the bombs somewhere. Of course, such a place is not provided for at the airfield.

    Of course, the gunners who attach the UMPKs to the bombs also need to be hidden from bad weather, reconnaissance, etc., along with their bombs and UMPK kits.
    And preferably not far from the planes. Because the number one BC for all frontline bombers is the UMPK.

    What conclusions should we draw?

    Yes, all the same. Do not consider the crests stupid. Do not think that they will attack with a number of drones equal to the number of anti-aircraft missiles. Apply all available means to disperse aircraft (even faulty ones) and shelters around the airfield. Move warehouses and UMPK preparation sites to earthen shelters.

    Well, and most importantly, in addition to the normal cover of airfields with air defense and electronic warfare systems, it is necessary to find resources to provide airfields with non-staff construction equipment, building materials and labor.
    The Ministry of Defense is unable to do this for bureaucratic reasons.

    Well, or these are reasons that are within the competence of the majors.

    Yes, the OBS suggests that the emerging progress in the centralized construction of shelters has gone to hell.
    VKS couldn’t handle it, VSK can’t do it, the technology is lost.
    They still can’t find contractors willing to sit down for a 50% kickback.

    The report is finished!

    (All of the above is the author’s fantasy and has nothing to do with our wonderful reality)

    FighterBomber.

  45. BTW this is an old image and we don’t know if this new Palyanitsa drone looks like this or not.

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