I wonder if these are particularly useful for countering Russian offensives.
To lob more FFARs over the horizon? Just send em more Mi8s
Should have sent 50 2 years ago . And 10,000 missiles .
Pretty useless at this point for Ukraine but free equipment can’t hurt. Cobras are pretty awesome machines, just can’t do much with them right now.
Edit: Good lord people, you need to understand the use cases before blindly acting like everything is a game changer. Abrams were less-liked than Leos because of their maintenance/logistics and have thus far not changed anything. F16s are useful for air defense, but haven’t changed anything offensively. Cobras aren’t going to fill some magical role that Mi-24s haven’t been capable of.
Again…I fully support giving them to Ukraine, but stop sucking up that hopium for every piece of Western tech to change the battlefield.
Edit 2: Still waiting for someone to tell me how training Ukrainians on a new platform that requires unique maintenance and logistics would be better than adapting hellfires to Soviet rotary wing platforms in use by Ukraine like we did with their fixed wings. Or just defer to calling me a Vatnik because I refuse to blindly nod my head to everything.
I guess helo pilots are easier reschooled on Western equipment compared to jet pilots but we still have to get past the “wot about muh escalation tho” politician dithering before the training even starts.
All so tiring, 2.5 years in some random batch of Vipers gets send. God forbid something gets send in serious numbers.
They can only be used in the US though, but here have them Ukraine!
And it’s 12.
I REALLY don’t get this talking about what aid we’re giving to our allies. Why don’t we just give them all kinds of shit ASAP. Fuck Putin!
Considering hellfires can use semi active laser I wonder how useful they would be for like lobbing hellfire missiles and then using a drone to guide them into the target
Anyone know if I’m right?
I just checked the Wikipedia, didn’t really check the different missile versions
I hope they outfit them with speakers.
*Fortunate Son intensifies*
Thanks but Put a 1 in front of the 11 please
Gotta be honest guys: This seems like a really bad idea.
Fielding a new attack helicopter takes a tremendous amount of effort, and attack helicopters are just waaaaaay too vulnerable in this battlespace.
That effort is better put towards efforts that already exist.
See you in 2 years 🙄
Skid kid here, send moar than 11.
Using up limited PDA on expensive helis that will do nothing but lob 70mm rockets for the rest of the war is probably the worst possible way to use it. How many bradleys, m113s and strykers could we send for the same amount of PDA dollars? Not to mention 155, 105, HIMARs, PATRIOT ammo. Just a silly convo
Attack helicopters put the Fear of God into insurgents, but in peer-to-peer conflicts seem much less useful – there is just too much anti-air defense available.
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Wow, 11. What a substantial number once again.
Will always be the Cobra in my heart.
I wonder if these are particularly useful for countering Russian offensives.
To lob more FFARs over the horizon?
Just send em more Mi8s
Should have sent 50 2 years ago . And 10,000 missiles .
Pretty useless at this point for Ukraine but free equipment can’t hurt. Cobras are pretty awesome machines, just can’t do much with them right now.
Edit: Good lord people, you need to understand the use cases before blindly acting like everything is a game changer. Abrams were less-liked than Leos because of their maintenance/logistics and have thus far not changed anything. F16s are useful for air defense, but haven’t changed anything offensively. Cobras aren’t going to fill some magical role that Mi-24s haven’t been capable of.
Again…I fully support giving them to Ukraine, but stop sucking up that hopium for every piece of Western tech to change the battlefield.
Edit 2: Still waiting for someone to tell me how training Ukrainians on a new platform that requires unique maintenance and logistics would be better than adapting hellfires to Soviet rotary wing platforms in use by Ukraine like we did with their fixed wings. Or just defer to calling me a Vatnik because I refuse to blindly nod my head to everything.
I guess helo pilots are easier reschooled on Western equipment compared to jet pilots but we still have to get past the “wot about muh escalation tho” politician dithering before the training even starts.
All so tiring, 2.5 years in some random batch of Vipers gets send. God forbid something gets send in serious numbers.
They can only be used in the US though, but here have them Ukraine!
And it’s 12.
I REALLY don’t get this talking about what aid we’re giving to our allies. Why don’t we just give them all kinds of shit ASAP. Fuck Putin!
Considering hellfires can use semi active laser I wonder how useful they would be for like lobbing hellfire missiles and then using a drone to guide them into the target
Anyone know if I’m right?
I just checked the Wikipedia, didn’t really check the different missile versions
I hope they outfit them with speakers.
*Fortunate Son intensifies*
Thanks but Put a 1 in front of the 11 please
Gotta be honest guys: This seems like a really bad idea.
Fielding a new attack helicopter takes a tremendous amount of effort, and attack helicopters are just waaaaaay too vulnerable in this battlespace.
That effort is better put towards efforts that already exist.
See you in 2 years 🙄
Skid kid here, send moar than 11.
Using up limited PDA on expensive helis that will do nothing but lob 70mm rockets for the rest of the war is probably the worst possible way to use it. How many bradleys, m113s and strykers could we send for the same amount of PDA dollars? Not to mention 155, 105, HIMARs, PATRIOT ammo. Just a silly convo
Attack helicopters put the Fear of God into insurgents, but in peer-to-peer conflicts seem much less useful – there is just too much anti-air defense available.