> As part of their discussions of strategy for the next year, officials are more seriously gaming out how a negotiated end to the conflict and an off-ramp could take shape, according to people familiar with the matter who asked for anonymity to discuss private deliberations.
Yeah well, I’m sorry to say but it looks like the West is simply looking at the writing on the wall and doesn’t believe that Ukraine will win. But no one has the will to say it.
> A negotiation to end the fighting would have to resolve a key conundrum: how to ensure that Ukraine won’t be vulnerable to a future Russian attack while reassuring its allies that they won’t be dragged into a direct conflict with the Kremlin.
Any type of realistic cease-fire will happen with both states being unhappy with what they get, Ukraine because they’re going to lose territory and Russia because they still haven’t toppled a pro-West government.
Good fucking luck making sure that this peace least if you’re not even willing to put boots on the ground to enforce it. China could realistically be the only country making sure that the hostilities wouldn’t restart even without NATO troops there, but China has absolutely no reason to alienate an ally for the sake of the West that is trying to redirect its attention towards… China.
> Ukrainians are strongly opposed to any territorial concessions, with 55% of respondents rejecting the idea in a poll released by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology in July.
“Strongly opposed” and “55%” does not compute.
You don’t negotiate with your rapist.
You neutralize the threat or it just keeps coming.
Trafficking has always been a Russian mob staple of business.
When the mob took over the government it just accelerated.
Some of that is sexual slavery. Some is slave labor.
Ukraine being the “gateway” to Europe and Crimea being the only warm water port for the Russian mob/government makes it pretty key.
When Russia says “Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe” it’s a humble brag because the kremlin uses the corrupted oligarch class to launder their money, traffic their women and children and monopolize the resources there.
Kolomoiskiy started Privatbank in 91, which was essentially just the soviet oligarchs taking loans from the IMF, then dividing it and reloaning it to themselves through some shell companies before defaulting on it. When the IMF demanded Zelensky make the Ukrainian people repay Kolomoiskiys loans before they would extend anymore funds, it painted Zelensky into just the corner the kremlin had spent almost 2 decades preparing.
But when Ukrainians fought back against corruption during the 2014 Maidan revolution and then again when Kolomoisky was arrested last year it blew the money laundering chain from Putin to Trump apart.
When you raise the lens and cross reference the timing, Brexit (of which Steve Bannon,Nigel Farage and Robert Mercers/Mega group/Cambridge Analytica that put trump in office, were all critical contributors), was intentional and necessary for Russia to keep Ukraine out of the EU and NATO.
Putin knew that the mandatory de-corruption audit process would expose both his money laundering and the human trafficking operations of the Russian mob through Ukraines oligarch class (Kolomoiksiy, Dubinsky, Firtash, etc) as well the chronic election interference via Paul Manafort, Orban, Kolomoiskiy etc, and the kompromised members of both UK and EU political circles.
To the chronic kleptocrat Putin this was the one thing that would show Russians and all the people in the other former soviet satellite states how he had been systemically manipulating and stealing from them via corruption for 2 decades which would lead to either an upset within his mob pyramid as an eager lieutenant decided he was ready to challenge the weakened old king for the throne (which Prigozohn did in June 2023 and had his plane shot down for it), or the people would revolt and kill him like Gaddafi, which he has admitted is his biggest fear.
The reason Epstein targeted Prince Andrew is because he was the softest most vulnerable part in the royal families flank. Same with Trump and RFK Jr.
Epstein was feeding that Kompromat/intel back to Israel/mega group who was in turn feeding it to Russian intelligence via the old world Russian Jewish families (Chabad network) that carry both Russian and Israeli passports but are self evidently more loyal to money than God.
Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage both dovetail in with Brexit as a Russian mob/gov intelligence op because SCL/Cambridge analytica was hedge fund owner Robert Mercers(mega group) baby when they decided to run trump as their “disruptor” candidate instead of Ted Cruz in 2016.
“Little moscow”/ palm beach/Jupiter Florida is where all the Russian gangsters relocated to back in the 80’s and 90’s because pre-internet, it was a geographical requirement of doing trafficking business. (Cocaine cowboys, etc) and where trump sent his good buddy Robert Kraft to get a girls at the “orchids of Asia” massage parlor.
Cargometrics is basically the logistics tracking solution for transnational smuggling and organized crime). Accurately tracking ocean freight is the constant bain of smugglers inside of governments trying to keep a layer of plausible deniability between themselves and their time sensitive incriminating cargo. Bananas may hold for a few days in transit. Humans and narcotics do not. At this level, logistics management is worth hundreds of billions of dollars because the politicians profiting off of them can’t afford the scandal and loss of position that comes with losing a shipment that testifies.
Cargometrics is their tech solution. The question is why did Ghislaine Maxwell quietly marry the founder after her relationship with Epstein and before she went to prison? And why did she transfer all her assets to him?
Ghislaine was basically her fathers proxy (mega group).
Netanyahu has been effectively an authoritarian in Israel for the same basic window of time because mega group/Russian mob needed to control the office to control the county. The war in Gaza is the only thing keeping him in office through his own corruption trials.
They are stacking genocides to obfuscate their grift
The gangster Putin doing the dirty work for the hopeful emperor xi takes it full circle back to trump via Netanyahu/Kushner when Putin and xi signed their “friendship unlimited” agreement just before invading Ukraine.
Xi just didn’t anticipate all this baggage when Ukrainians fought back against their rapist.
Anatevka is the Chabad town in Ukraine where Kolomoiksiy met guiliani to pass the check and where they would hold girls in transit from east to west.
When it happens, it’s going to look a lot like a surrender. And then we will quietly find a way to cut Ukrainains loose. They have served their purpose. All of these fantasies about Blackrock rebuilding the country are just that.
Russia would have 4 conditions no matter what. 1:Ukraine never joins NATO 2:Accepting the loss of the 4 regions + Crimea 3:Banning all Banderist ideology 4:New president
Here’s how a ceasefire would actually look: Russia would temporarily cease fire, then use the time off to rebuild their strength, and then attack Ukraine again as soon as they were strong enough to actually win.
Anybody who doesn’t realize this is either hopelessly naive or a useful idiot for Putin.
There’s much handwringing that this war hinges on US elections, but recently even Dems are signaling reluctance to escalate further against Russia.
Meanwhile, many goals have already been achieved: the destruction of Nordstream, strengthening of NATO in Europe, replacement of Russian gas with American, German deindustrialization and resultant capital flight to the US. It has been a very profitable endeavor.
None of this can be spoken of in such mercenary terms by politicians on the stump, but once the ballots are in…and even now, a steady trickle of critical coverage in MSM outlets that, prior to Kursk, offered little else but praise and unswerving support.
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> As part of their discussions of strategy for the next year, officials are more seriously gaming out how a negotiated end to the conflict and an off-ramp could take shape, according to people familiar with the matter who asked for anonymity to discuss private deliberations.
Yeah well, I’m sorry to say but it looks like the West is simply looking at the writing on the wall and doesn’t believe that Ukraine will win. But no one has the will to say it.
> A negotiation to end the fighting would have to resolve a key conundrum: how to ensure that Ukraine won’t be vulnerable to a future Russian attack while reassuring its allies that they won’t be dragged into a direct conflict with the Kremlin.
Any type of realistic cease-fire will happen with both states being unhappy with what they get, Ukraine because they’re going to lose territory and Russia because they still haven’t toppled a pro-West government.
Good fucking luck making sure that this peace least if you’re not even willing to put boots on the ground to enforce it. China could realistically be the only country making sure that the hostilities wouldn’t restart even without NATO troops there, but China has absolutely no reason to alienate an ally for the sake of the West that is trying to redirect its attention towards… China.
> Ukrainians are strongly opposed to any territorial concessions, with 55% of respondents rejecting the idea in a poll released by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology in July.
“Strongly opposed” and “55%” does not compute.
You don’t negotiate with your rapist.
You neutralize the threat or it just keeps coming.
Trafficking has always been a Russian mob staple of business.
When the mob took over the government it just accelerated.
Some of that is sexual slavery. Some is slave labor.
Ukraine being the “gateway” to Europe and Crimea being the only warm water port for the Russian mob/government makes it pretty key.
When Russia says “Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe” it’s a humble brag because the kremlin uses the corrupted oligarch class to launder their money, traffic their women and children and monopolize the resources there.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/s/cxzFpch31s
Kolomoiskiy started Privatbank in 91, which was essentially just the soviet oligarchs taking loans from the IMF, then dividing it and reloaning it to themselves through some shell companies before defaulting on it. When the IMF demanded Zelensky make the Ukrainian people repay Kolomoiskiys loans before they would extend anymore funds, it painted Zelensky into just the corner the kremlin had spent almost 2 decades preparing.
https://eurasianet.org/how-an-embattled-ukrainian-oligarch-has-kept-his-grip-on-an-economic-empire
But when Ukrainians fought back against corruption during the 2014 Maidan revolution and then again when Kolomoisky was arrested last year it blew the money laundering chain from Putin to Trump apart.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaLago/s/lRbRmfgSzE
When you raise the lens and cross reference the timing, Brexit (of which Steve Bannon,Nigel Farage and Robert Mercers/Mega group/Cambridge Analytica that put trump in office, were all critical contributors), was intentional and necessary for Russia to keep Ukraine out of the EU and NATO.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/I17U4FSnwV
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/were-there-any-links-between-cambridge-analytica-russia-and-brexit/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/LQrK6BwGLd
Putin knew that the mandatory de-corruption audit process would expose both his money laundering and the human trafficking operations of the Russian mob through Ukraines oligarch class (Kolomoiksiy, Dubinsky, Firtash, etc) as well the chronic election interference via Paul Manafort, Orban, Kolomoiskiy etc, and the kompromised members of both UK and EU political circles.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/trump-orban-embrace-00176832
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/doj-ukrainian-oligarch-392405
To the chronic kleptocrat Putin this was the one thing that would show Russians and all the people in the other former soviet satellite states how he had been systemically manipulating and stealing from them via corruption for 2 decades which would lead to either an upset within his mob pyramid as an eager lieutenant decided he was ready to challenge the weakened old king for the throne (which Prigozohn did in June 2023 and had his plane shot down for it), or the people would revolt and kill him like Gaddafi, which he has admitted is his biggest fear.
https://bbcrussian.substack.com/p/wagner-inheritance-what-has-happened
The reason Epstein targeted Prince Andrew is because he was the softest most vulnerable part in the royal families flank. Same with Trump and RFK Jr.
Epstein was feeding that Kompromat/intel back to Israel/mega group who was in turn feeding it to Russian intelligence via the old world Russian Jewish families (Chabad network) that carry both Russian and Israeli passports but are self evidently more loyal to money than God.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-happy-go-lucky-jewish-group-that-connects-trump-and-putin-215007/
Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage both dovetail in with Brexit as a Russian mob/gov intelligence op because SCL/Cambridge analytica was hedge fund owner Robert Mercers(mega group) baby when they decided to run trump as their “disruptor” candidate instead of Ted Cruz in 2016.
https://campaignlegal.org/update/newly-published-cambridge-analytica-documents-show-unlawful-support-trump-2016
•Abagail Koppel was sent by the Israeli state to marry Les Wexner
•PROMIS spyware was Ghislaines father Robert Maxwells(KGB) deal long before his daughter and Epstein started their pedophile thing.
https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/robert-maxwells-british-ordered-nuclear
https://crypto me.org/promis-mossad.htm
https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/s/80htF6ISEZ
“Little moscow”/ palm beach/Jupiter Florida is where all the Russian gangsters relocated to back in the 80’s and 90’s because pre-internet, it was a geographical requirement of doing trafficking business. (Cocaine cowboys, etc) and where trump sent his good buddy Robert Kraft to get a girls at the “orchids of Asia” massage parlor.
https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/news/vladimir-putin-kill-someone-robert-kraft-stolen-new-england-patriots-super-bowl-ring-russia
https://watch.amazon.com/detail?gti=amzn1.dv.gti.ba4e4090-165f-459e-8e5e-53f8dd415237&territory=US&ref_=share_ios_movie&r=web
Cargometrics is basically the logistics tracking solution for transnational smuggling and organized crime). Accurately tracking ocean freight is the constant bain of smugglers inside of governments trying to keep a layer of plausible deniability between themselves and their time sensitive incriminating cargo. Bananas may hold for a few days in transit. Humans and narcotics do not. At this level, logistics management is worth hundreds of billions of dollars because the politicians profiting off of them can’t afford the scandal and loss of position that comes with losing a shipment that testifies.
https://scmp.com/magazines/style/celebrity/article/3161688/who-ghislaine-maxwells-secret-husband-meet-scott
Cargometrics is their tech solution. The question is why did Ghislaine Maxwell quietly marry the founder after her relationship with Epstein and before she went to prison? And why did she transfer all her assets to him?
Ghislaine was basically her fathers proxy (mega group).
Netanyahu has been effectively an authoritarian in Israel for the same basic window of time because mega group/Russian mob needed to control the office to control the county. The war in Gaza is the only thing keeping him in office through his own corruption trials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/23/opinion/netanyahu-israel-gaza-congress.html
They are stacking genocides to obfuscate their grift
The gangster Putin doing the dirty work for the hopeful emperor xi takes it full circle back to trump via Netanyahu/Kushner when Putin and xi signed their “friendship unlimited” agreement just before invading Ukraine.
Xi just didn’t anticipate all this baggage when Ukrainians fought back against their rapist.
Anatevka is the Chabad town in Ukraine where Kolomoiksiy met guiliani to pass the check and where they would hold girls in transit from east to west.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/inside-anatevka-the-curious-chabad-hamlet-in-ukraine-where-giuliani-is-mayor/
https://miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article250418591.html
When it happens, it’s going to look a lot like a surrender. And then we will quietly find a way to cut Ukrainains loose. They have served their purpose. All of these fantasies about Blackrock rebuilding the country are just that.
Russia would have 4 conditions no matter what. 1:Ukraine never joins NATO 2:Accepting the loss of the 4 regions + Crimea 3:Banning all Banderist ideology 4:New president
Here’s how a ceasefire would actually look: Russia would temporarily cease fire, then use the time off to rebuild their strength, and then attack Ukraine again as soon as they were strong enough to actually win.
Anybody who doesn’t realize this is either hopelessly naive or a useful idiot for Putin.
There’s much handwringing that this war hinges on US elections, but recently even Dems are signaling reluctance to escalate further against Russia.
Meanwhile, many goals have already been achieved: the destruction of Nordstream, strengthening of NATO in Europe, replacement of Russian gas with American, German deindustrialization and resultant capital flight to the US. It has been a very profitable endeavor.
None of this can be spoken of in such mercenary terms by politicians on the stump, but once the ballots are in…and even now, a steady trickle of critical coverage in MSM outlets that, prior to Kursk, offered little else but praise and unswerving support.