there goes the last sympathy for Erdogan from Germany!
Döners are my favorite food! It makes me nervous when governments start talking about regulating them.
Just as futile as Italy trying to prevent Sweden from putting Chicken+Banana on pizza.
Germany’s döner kebab wouldn’t even qualify for r/FoodCrimes
Protected designation of origin only works within Europe, so no dice
Turkey wants to regulate? Probably learning from the EU.
No problem, I’m fine with calling them Gyros.
Every time I meet Turkish people in real life they’re really kind. Is the hyper patriotic Kurd-hating chest- thumping Turkish internet mob a parallel nation?
Germany having a taste of her own medicine: over-regulation 🤣
German kebabs and gyros’ are amazing. The ones here in the UK are shit in comparison.
The funniest fact about this story is that he is hurting the owners of Döner shops in Germany by it who are often part of his own voter base.
Isn’t the kebab the German national dish at this point, though?
I am all for protecting regional/local cuisine and naming , but I think it went to far for someone to be able to stop it now.
As someone who spent a week walking around Berlin this year. The Döner Kebab has become effectively the main dish or Berlin
First time here, Ahmet?
It’s a battle lost from the start. Better to sit and silently judge those primitive Northerners 😛
Germany should regulate hygiene regulations better for kebab (or other „street food“), because most of those joints are proper bacteria carousels
It’s not “Germany’s”, hence why Turkey can even push for this.
Huh? It’s not even strictly Turkish cuisine, why should Turkey have a say in it?
How and why tho? The German Döner hasn’t much to do with turkey at all. Sounds like boredom
Unfortunately, there is a very hammerheaded debate about this among Turks. There is no concept of creating a food variety for a majority of them through adding different sauces and ingredients. So Turkey sees it as the same food since the meat is prepared the “same”.
In reality, the meat isn’t even same due to the strict EU regulations and the lack of them in Turkey. The one sandwich doner comparison called “gobbit” is nowhere close as well. Its bread is definitely distinctive but it has same variety of ingredients as any other doner in Turkey. Some of the kebab doners I had in Germany had so many ingredients and sauce that it was spilling out of the bread. I would even dare to say kebab doner variety in Germany is closer to Taco (obviously excluding tortilla and minced meat) than its variety in Turkey. You will never see the same amount of ingredients in Turkey, they barely put salad or greens inside regardless if it is included or requested. It is 90% of the time just meat, oil glaze and occasionally garlic mayo.
A small note also on the word “kebab”. It is a misnomer in the Turkish context of this topic. It refers to meat chunks shaped by hand with minced meat grilled on skewer, it is also a food on its own. However, doner refers to smaller meat slices cut from huge rotary meat chunks whilst grilling. So the two used together doesn’t really make sense in Turkish. Hence “doner kebab” would be a kind of a compound word on its own to refer to the German variety of the food at least unless the German government invents a new word which I’m sure they’d be thrilled to do.
I need a friend’s
He could ask nicely, but I don’t think anybody will give a skit.
Many of the Döner variants have been invented by Turks in Germany. The issue for me and for many German Turks is that the Germans accept Döner as their own German dish but not the people that invented it. I was “made” in Germany however every German I have crossed paths with sees me as Turk and even calling my self is met with “your name and blood” isn’t German so can’t I.
Either accept Turks as Germans or recognise that every created by German Turks is Turkish. Every achievement we accomplish is German, however we as people are not, according to German society. You can’t solve the Döner question without addressing this first.
Edit: go ahead in downvote it. If Turks born in Germany are not Germans, then neither isn’t the Döner.
Isn’t a lot or even most of the Döner called “Drehspieß” these days because it can’t be called Döner anyway?
A lot of modern döner is made with predominantly minced meat after the government tried to enact laws to ensure the quality. Most of the shops close to me renamed the food and went for even worse meat.
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> Germany’s
Beg your pardon?
They are welcome to go pound some sand
there goes the last sympathy for Erdogan from Germany!
Döners are my favorite food! It makes me nervous when governments start talking about regulating them.
Just as futile as Italy trying to prevent Sweden from putting Chicken+Banana on pizza.
Germany’s döner kebab wouldn’t even qualify for r/FoodCrimes
Protected designation of origin only works within Europe, so no dice
Turkey wants to regulate? Probably learning from the EU.
No problem, I’m fine with calling them Gyros.
Every time I meet Turkish people in real life they’re really kind. Is the hyper patriotic Kurd-hating chest- thumping Turkish internet mob a parallel nation?
Germany having a taste of her own medicine: over-regulation 🤣
German kebabs and gyros’ are amazing. The ones here in the UK are shit in comparison.
The funniest fact about this story is that he is hurting the owners of Döner shops in Germany by it who are often part of his own voter base.
Isn’t the kebab the German national dish at this point, though?
I am all for protecting regional/local cuisine and naming , but I think it went to far for someone to be able to stop it now.
As someone who spent a week walking around Berlin this year. The Döner Kebab has become effectively the main dish or Berlin
First time here, Ahmet?
It’s a battle lost from the start. Better to sit and silently judge those primitive Northerners 😛
Germany should regulate hygiene regulations better for kebab (or other „street food“), because most of those joints are proper bacteria carousels
It’s not “Germany’s”, hence why Turkey can even push for this.
Huh? It’s not even strictly Turkish cuisine, why should Turkey have a say in it?
How and why tho? The German Döner hasn’t much to do with turkey at all. Sounds like boredom
Unfortunately, there is a very hammerheaded debate about this among Turks. There is no concept of creating a food variety for a majority of them through adding different sauces and ingredients. So Turkey sees it as the same food since the meat is prepared the “same”.
In reality, the meat isn’t even same due to the strict EU regulations and the lack of them in Turkey. The one sandwich doner comparison called “gobbit” is nowhere close as well. Its bread is definitely distinctive but it has same variety of ingredients as any other doner in Turkey. Some of the kebab doners I had in Germany had so many ingredients and sauce that it was spilling out of the bread. I would even dare to say kebab doner variety in Germany is closer to Taco (obviously excluding tortilla and minced meat) than its variety in Turkey. You will never see the same amount of ingredients in Turkey, they barely put salad or greens inside regardless if it is included or requested. It is 90% of the time just meat, oil glaze and occasionally garlic mayo.
A small note also on the word “kebab”. It is a misnomer in the Turkish context of this topic. It refers to meat chunks shaped by hand with minced meat grilled on skewer, it is also a food on its own. However, doner refers to smaller meat slices cut from huge rotary meat chunks whilst grilling. So the two used together doesn’t really make sense in Turkish. Hence “doner kebab” would be a kind of a compound word on its own to refer to the German variety of the food at least unless the German government invents a new word which I’m sure they’d be thrilled to do.
I need a friend’s
He could ask nicely, but I don’t think anybody will give a skit.
Many of the Döner variants have been invented by Turks in Germany. The issue for me and for many German Turks is that the Germans accept Döner as their own German dish but not the people that invented it. I was “made” in Germany however every German I have crossed paths with sees me as Turk and even calling my self is met with “your name and blood” isn’t German so can’t I.
Either accept Turks as Germans or recognise that every created by German Turks is Turkish.
Every achievement we accomplish is German, however we as people are not, according to German society. You can’t solve the Döner question without addressing this first.
Edit: go ahead in downvote it. If Turks born in Germany are not Germans, then neither isn’t the Döner.
Isn’t a lot or even most of the Döner called “Drehspieß” these days because it can’t be called Döner anyway?
A lot of modern döner is made with predominantly minced meat after the government tried to enact laws to ensure the quality. Most of the shops close to me renamed the food and went for even worse meat.
There’s no need to be this petty about food.
Wir Sind die Türken von Morgen
Just wait until they hear about donairs….. lol
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donair
* https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/halifax-donair-official-food-1.3355840
Damn, sounds like world war 4…
Germany Döner is way better than the ones I ate in Turkiye. They were bland with parsley and salad.