Real policing like having to investigate social media insults over burglary’s and theft.
Then don’t put so much effort into policing them. They are peaceful people with placards not criminals.
These protests are fairly recent. The police being absent and not responding was a criticism David Cameron raised way back to get elected.
It’s a long time issue and still getting worse
Real policing? Sitting at a computer looking for people’s online hurty words?
Everything you do eats into time to do everything else, so his statement is moot.
If what he means is “we find these protests a waste of our time” then just say that and face the moral backlash.
Look, saying you find these protests a waste of time show you don’t care about what they’re trying to do, so why care about what they say about you in response?
Police need to get back to real police work, like scrolling through Facebook
The enthusiasm for senior members of the Met to be anti-protest is chilling, especially as their new favourite line (drawn up in collaboration with opaquely funded “think tank” Policy Exchange) is “budget”.
Yes, civil liberties cost money. Technically the money it costs to hold an election could be spent on the NHS. Technically the cost of having trials to determine guilt or innocence could be saved by just tossing wrong’uns into prison hulks and we could give the money to “real policing”.
However we don’t do that because the end result of that is a very bad place.
The main tactic of disruptive protests are to be disruptive. The Government should take real action to fight climate change and stop the collapse of human civilisation.
Is it a shock that when we face human extinction, that some people are going to be upset about that?
Poor government leadership and corruption are the problems, and civil protests are the consequences 🤷♂️
Combine this with a limited police force size, also dictated by government, then you can see the problem.
Maybe the government should stop ratfucking the climate and doing war stuff then.
I’m fairly sure that a large proportion of crimes in London could be solved simply by having half of the Mer arrested.
Wait until the catastrophic effects of climate change start to emerge…
In the last 5 years ago I’d roughly say I’m aware of 9 incidences among myself and my close circles of someone being a victim of crime, be it theft, robbery or even assault (if I count accounts from acquaintances that number easily doubles) wherein the police were called, of those occurences the police actually showed up on scene twice (failing to show up at one point where a friend of mine was violently assaulted by two twats at a pub, whom were still in that pub at and well after the time of him calling to report to the police, in fact he waited outside the pub for over 40 minutes while being told the police would show up if available), the number of times a case was actually followed up past the initial report or any progress made? Zero.
I qualify it as within 5 years simply to illustrate a time period, not to suggest by any means that it is a rising trend, perhaps a trend that became apparent around 10-15 years ago, but by no means a comparably recent one.
Regardless of if they are peaceful of not it’s a lot of policing resources to just stand there to ensure it stays that way. There is always a bad element at these protests, small groups of anarchists who try to rile things up and get everyone to riot. It’s the police’ job to ensure everyone is safe and that things don’t suddenly go wrong. Just a single thrown bottle can eacalate. This means huge amount of police are required and those police come from each borough in london (met I mean). 10-20% to be exact, thats a lot of police NOT on the ground in your local area. Now imagine that happening most days due to yet another protest for yet another cause? This means that over a year the local policing forces are constantly understaffed or working at minimum acceptable levels. Protests are good and the police are good at managing them but currently the sheer amount of them means it’s a huge drain on resources for other things and the police are constantly trying to catch up. Either they reduce the amount of protests (which won’t happen) or someone needs to find a much more manageable system to ensure we all get what we need from policing.
Those pesky environmentalists, trying to get in our way.
You know what will eat into “real policing” – not dealing with the climate crisis (and I’m not really a fan of the protests but I can feel their fraustration).
Because when there is more extreme weather occuring (and the damage and threat to life that causes), when people get upset and angry that there are even more future food shortages, when immigration becomes an increasingly bigger issue due to mass migration from war-torn nations that are having to flee climate related crisis… guess which clowns are going to have to attend such incidents.
But hey, the police aren’t exactly known for being progressive thinkers are they?
No, protesting is legal, it’s literally their job to Police. If they don’t have the proper funding then Government is to blame, not the public exercising their democratic rights.
Maybe stop giving everyone reasons to protest then
He’s right, but I’m totally happy to see JSO roughed up and thrown in a cell for years. Anyone who thinks they’re an effective group is, quite frankly, a clown.
I live near an embassy that garners frequent protests. Sure they are a hassle, but the Met reaction is also over the top. There could be a half dozen people there and they will still have a helicopter hover over the neighbourhood for 8hrs on a Saturday and a half dozen or more vans full Met officers. It’s an overkill misallocation of resources. The biggest time police presence is needed isn’t even for the protests with hundreds of thousands of people during the day, but for when they get co-opted by drunks and kids later in the evening when most protestors of any given thing have already dispersed.
Maybe do something about climate change and stop supporting wars?
Don’t worry Met boss, I’m sure more community policing will help.
Real policing like handing out incident numbers and not bothering to investigate anything.
It depends what they mean by “real policing”. In the old days that used to be getting false confessions and beating suspects black and blue until they confessed.
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Real policing like having to investigate social media insults over burglary’s and theft.
Then don’t put so much effort into policing them. They are peaceful people with placards not criminals.
These protests are fairly recent.
The police being absent and not responding was a criticism David Cameron raised way back to get elected.
It’s a long time issue and still getting worse
Real policing? Sitting at a computer looking for people’s online hurty words?
Everything you do eats into time to do everything else, so his statement is moot.
If what he means is “we find these protests a waste of our time” then just say that and face the moral backlash.
Look, saying you find these protests a waste of time show you don’t care about what they’re trying to do, so why care about what they say about you in response?
Police need to get back to real police work, like scrolling through Facebook
The enthusiasm for senior members of the Met to be anti-protest is chilling, especially as their new favourite line (drawn up in collaboration with opaquely funded “think tank” Policy Exchange) is “budget”.
Yes, civil liberties cost money. Technically the money it costs to hold an election could be spent on the NHS. Technically the cost of having trials to determine guilt or innocence could be saved by just tossing wrong’uns into prison hulks and we could give the money to “real policing”.
However we don’t do that because the end result of that is a very bad place.
The main tactic of disruptive protests are to be disruptive. The Government should take real action to fight climate change and stop the collapse of human civilisation.
Is it a shock that when we face human extinction, that some people are going to be upset about that?
Poor government leadership and corruption are the problems, and civil protests are the consequences 🤷♂️
Combine this with a limited police force size, also dictated by government, then you can see the problem.
Maybe the government should stop ratfucking the climate and doing war stuff then.
I’m fairly sure that a large proportion of crimes in London could be solved simply by having half of the Mer arrested.
Wait until the catastrophic effects of climate change start to emerge…
In the last 5 years ago I’d roughly say I’m aware of 9 incidences among myself and my close circles of someone being a victim of crime, be it theft, robbery or even assault (if I count accounts from acquaintances that number easily doubles) wherein the police were called, of those occurences the police actually showed up on scene twice (failing to show up at one point where a friend of mine was violently assaulted by two twats at a pub, whom were still in that pub at and well after the time of him calling to report to the police, in fact he waited outside the pub for over 40 minutes while being told the police would show up if available), the number of times a case was actually followed up past the initial report or any progress made? Zero.
I qualify it as within 5 years simply to illustrate a time period, not to suggest by any means that it is a rising trend, perhaps a trend that became apparent around 10-15 years ago, but by no means a comparably recent one.
Regardless of if they are peaceful of not it’s a lot of policing resources to just stand there to ensure it stays that way. There is always a bad element at these protests, small groups of anarchists who try to rile things up and get everyone to riot. It’s the police’ job to ensure everyone is safe and that things don’t suddenly go wrong. Just a single thrown bottle can eacalate. This means huge amount of police are required and those police come from each borough in london (met I mean). 10-20% to be exact, thats a lot of police NOT on the ground in your local area. Now imagine that happening most days due to yet another protest for yet another cause? This means that over a year the local policing forces are constantly understaffed or working at minimum acceptable levels. Protests are good and the police are good at managing them but currently the sheer amount of them means it’s a huge drain on resources for other things and the police are constantly trying to catch up. Either they reduce the amount of protests (which won’t happen) or someone needs to find a much more manageable system to ensure we all get what we need from policing.
Those pesky environmentalists, trying to get in our way.
You know what will eat into “real policing” – not dealing with the climate crisis (and I’m not really a fan of the protests but I can feel their fraustration).
Because when there is more extreme weather occuring (and the damage and threat to life that causes), when people get upset and angry that there are even more future food shortages, when immigration becomes an increasingly bigger issue due to mass migration from war-torn nations that are having to flee climate related crisis… guess which clowns are going to have to attend such incidents.
But hey, the police aren’t exactly known for being progressive thinkers are they?
No, protesting is legal, it’s literally their job to Police. If they don’t have the proper funding then Government is to blame, not the public exercising their democratic rights.
Maybe stop giving everyone reasons to protest then
He’s right, but I’m totally happy to see JSO roughed up and thrown in a cell for years.
Anyone who thinks they’re an effective group is, quite frankly, a clown.
I live near an embassy that garners frequent protests. Sure they are a hassle, but the Met reaction is also over the top. There could be a half dozen people there and they will still have a helicopter hover over the neighbourhood for 8hrs on a Saturday and a half dozen or more vans full Met officers. It’s an overkill misallocation of resources. The biggest time police presence is needed isn’t even for the protests with hundreds of thousands of people during the day, but for when they get co-opted by drunks and kids later in the evening when most protestors of any given thing have already dispersed.
Maybe do something about climate change and stop supporting wars?
Don’t worry Met boss, I’m sure more community policing will help.
Real policing like handing out incident numbers and not bothering to investigate anything.
It depends what they mean by “real policing”. In the old days that used to be getting false confessions and beating suspects black and blue until they confessed.