Pensioners in legal action against Scottish and UK governments over universal winter fuel payment cut



Pensioners in legal action against Scottish and UK governments over universal winter fuel payment cut

https://news.sky.com/story/pensioners-in-legal-action-against-scottish-and-uk-governments-over-universal-winter-fuel-payment-cut-13222468

by topotaul

41 comments
  1. Willing to put the country billions in debt just so they can pocket £300 for the next few years.

    Me me me generation. At it again.

  2. If you’re sitting in a 350k house why the fuck are the government giving you money? You’re a benefit skank….and you lot are always the first to bang the drum about cutting benefits….well we’re cutting your benefits.

  3. This explains why all the boomers are crying about labour on all the local Facebook community groups. Fuck ’em all. It brings me great satisfaction to see them whine and bitch and moan.

    Benefits should be allocated solely on financial need. Not age.

  4. £20k mortgages back in the day now living in 200k houses. Entitled asf. Most* of them spend it on gadgets anyway.

  5. They seem entitled, students didn’t get consulted before the change to tuition fees, as an example.

    > The case’s argument rests on the accusation both governments failed to adequately consult with those of pension age on the change

  6. Maybe they should give up their take away coffees and avocado toast for the winter to see them through

  7. If you have money for frivolous lawsuits that stand no chance of success, you clearly don’t need winter fuel payments.

  8. Maybe they should sue themselves for not saving enough when they were younger or not having a private pension.

    I bet they voted brexit too.

  9. Side point, but why do Scottish Nationalists always insist on calling it the “London Government” or “Westminster Government” but then Holyrood as the “Scottish Government”?

    Either call them London and Edinburgh or UK and Scottish. I bet they are the exact same people who complain about Americans referring to the UK as England.

  10. Oh of course it zooms out in the article and it’s Alex Salmond on their right hand side.

    You might not have agreed with his position on Scottish independence but as soon as he resigned he seems to dedicated his remaining time on this earth to undermining the Scottish government at every opportunity

  11. All thats happening is that winter fuel payment is becoming means tested, just like most other benefits and just like it should have always been.

    Because it’s means tested, literally every pensioner whining about losing it is doing so because they’re rich enough to not need it and have to pay their way like everyone poorer than them.

  12. Listening to a phone in about this on BBC Radio 4 yesterday. The amount of pensioners ringing in pleading poverty when they were obviously able (from their other remarks) to afford a decent standard of living was mind boggling.

  13. Not arguing that the means tested level should be higher. Just arguing that all pensioners should get free money. Comes across as Pathetic and grasping.

  14. The wealthiest age demographic is being forced to pay for their own fuel if they can afford it! This is an outrage, younger people that can’t afford the simple basics of existence should be FORCED to continue to shoulder the burden!

  15. They won’t win this, even if I think the government should have handled this better the truth is pensioners are not immune to the same cuts as everyone else. This kind of case is thrown out every time it comes up.

    >The case’s argument rests on the accusation both governments failed to adequately consult with those of pension age on the change and did not release an equality impact assessment on the changes.

    I’d wager Labour are doing one as I type, so even if they lost it’s covered.

  16. The pension generation these days are so entitled, why don’t they just get a job and work like the rest of us? They want everything for nothing. They should give up the Saga holidays and latest Rascals first.

  17. Here’s a thought – why don’t they go and get themselves a part time job instead of expecting me to pay more tax to give money to people who don’t need it?

    Or do any one of the things that their generation told millennials to do during the GFA and Cameron governments.

  18. My parents literally started having a pop about this in a cafe earlier, and said it would make Christmas harder because it helps them to pay for presents.

    They did not like it when I said the state should not be funding their Christmas purchases.

  19. Triple lock pay rise will more than cover this no matter the fact its means tested so people who really need it will continue getting it. Fucking boomers, take take take.

  20. I know plenty of older folks in retirement that don’t have much at all and maybe just surviving on state pension in ex council houses.
    They should be allowed winter fuel payments.

  21. Maybe if they pulled up their socks and stopped jetting off to Benidorm three times a year they could afford to live within their means.

  22. Their generation has had it all good, free university, affordable houses which are now worth eye watering prices, a good functioning NHS. The rest of us are having to work for longer, likely not able to afford a first time home, student debts with interest that keeps changing. They can absolutely afford to pay for their winter fuel. It should be means tested and not entitled to all. Fed up of our generation getting fucked over.

  23. If you live in a paid off house which is too big for you and you can’t afford to heat it, maybe it’s time to sell up and buy something more fitting.

    Boomers love to tell younger generations that we should move where houses are cheaper but wouldn’t stand for such a suggestion the other way.

  24. Labour should absolutely rinse this demographic. Go after young votes by taking money off the boomers and investing into growth. The boomers won’t stop voting Tory anyway.

  25. Labour should absolutely rinse this demographic. Go after young votes by taking money off the boomers and investing into growth. The boomers won’t stop voting Tory anyway.

  26. Labour should absolutely rinse this demographic. Go after young votes by taking money off the boomers and investing into growth. The boomers won’t stop voting Tory anyway.

  27. Labour should absolutely rinse this demographic. Go after young votes by taking money off the boomers and investing into growth. The boomers won’t stop voting Tory anyway.

  28. From the STV article, a direct quote from the gent.

    >”Normally we’d have an opportunity to save for things like Christmas or whatever and we wouldn’t worry as much about the winter fuel bill but because it’s been taken off so quickly and so disastrously for us we are really going to suffer this winter.”

    Meanwhile, my younger low income friends do this crazy thing called “save”, where they try to keep money aside for the winter bill.

    Even then, I know plenty of people younger than me that spent last Christmas in blankets and hot water bottles, why should older people get a hand out just because?

    Everyone is struggling, and everyone has to make sacrifices. Older people are the first to throw the “benefit scroungers” line out from my experience.

  29. It’s embarrassing hearing my own parents bitching about this and then they book a three week holiday to India spending 5k on it!

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