I’ve not seen it in this format. I’m surprised Italy is not higher. The things I’ve seen and experienced on Italian roads will stay with me forever.
It doesn’t surprise me. Two things I’ve noticed on my first day of driving here:
Many drivers are awful at keeping safety distance behind. They just have no understanding whatsoever of this concept. I’m talking about drivers that will be less than 3 meters behind you on a highway doing 120kph. This is especially true if they think you drive too slowly and there’s just one lane (mind you, I never drive on the left lane, only use it for passing cars and then go back to right/middle).
And the other common sin is that when drivers pass you from the left (if you’re lucky) they cut right in front of you. They don’t speed nicely ahead and then switch back to your lane, they will just hop back to your lane 20cm in front of you, causing you to break. So again, lack of understanding of safety distance and response times.
Add to that the fact that most drivers seem to think speed limits are minimum limits and not maximum limits, that 50 means 80 and 80 means 110, and that a lot of them drive mediocre cars with mediocre tires… and you’re gonna get a lot of accidents, and pretty bad ones.
And r/portugalcykablyat strikes again.
As a person who (rarely) drives in Romania and keeps it at a steady 50km/h in cities/villages, it is incredible how big of a line I can make behind me, while having nobody in front basically.. which means most people are going over the speed limit.
Not just that, but they also tailgate you like crazy. I like to keep at least 10-15m between me and the next car but they stay at like 1 car length..
I can’t stand impatient drivers.. so naturally I stopped driving for my sanity. I guess all those impatient people are thankful too, since I won’t bother them with my respecting the speed limit.
A better metric would be e.g. mileage-based. Per resident really makes no sense as the mode of transport can be quite different.
Motorbike tour in norway it is.
Just went on vacation in Greece and I can fully understand why their numbers are so high.
People there drive like absolute morons (especially the dumbasses on mopeds). The infrastructure is weird as hell, some intersections make no sense and the on / off ramps are basically constructed to make the likelihood of accidents as high as possible. Also, lots of people with completely destroyed / ancient and unserviced vehicles.
Having taken a few taxis in Malta, I’m genuinely surprised that it’s so low
what happened to those numbers?!
Most Brits will say that people drive badly. But most of it is either speeding or being impolite (cutting people off etc).
People follow the laws at junctions and ‘wait their turn’. A lack of doing that seems to be the problem in Europe.
While Estonia isn’t particularly good on this statistic, i went to Rally Poland in 2017. I have never been so consistently scared behind the wheel than i was driving the smaller Polish B roads around the rally.
Portugal, WTF? i always thought you people where easygoing.
For Portugal, a big part of it has to be the wide assortment of slow moving vehicles/tractors/etc that force you to pass them in sketchy spots and dummies who park in the road and turn on their 4 way flashers and go into a cafe or whatever.
In fairness I’m just back from Portugal and our taxi driver said there were four speed cameras in the algarve and two were broken so wonder if that has anything to do with it?
r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
It would be more meaningful to show road deaths per 1million km driven.
Portugal is not more dangerous than Italy🧐
Didn’t know it was so high for Latvia, but pretty reasonable since quite a bit of people tend to drive over the speed limit
The Netherlands number is including any kind of transportation. For car driving the number would be 11. For bicycles it’s 15. Rest is pedestrian, moped, etc.
In Croatia you gotta be careful for ministers on the road. They can literally kill you without consequences for themselves. Last year defence minister was drunk driving and killed some guy. Ruling party is so incredibly corrupt here that he hasn’t even been indicted 11 months later.
Bulgaria beat us again, not fair!
Anything below 47 is good trust me.
Could be worse… USA is 128
No worries, Finland is heading to orange zone when speed cameras are busted and not much of police presence on streets with Christmas lights chasing offenders.
This is or isnt a valid criticism but imo this statistik is not that meaningfull. Yes it takes the population into account, but not the drivin kilometers. What i mean is, that a country with many residents can have a small amount of deaths bcs they just dont drive therefore seem to be safer. Same country with same death/mio driven km will have a higher deathrate bcs they drive more therefore seem leds save. I dont want to defend anyone, just a critisims on the methode. I for example live in Germany, and as far as i know, do we declare our deaths with death/ mio km driven.
I’d love to see the Italy map divided into North and South.
Portugal is Eastern European once again
*sighs in bulgarian* Yes.
I read “Europe’s deadliest countries for **diving**” and thought “Wow… Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria and Hungary must have really dangerous lakes or underwater caves”
I am actually surprised with Poland , I would expect less. Also surprised with France. ABout 5 years I went there and it was kind of madness.
In my opinion, the area around Naples, Italy should be around 100…
A statistic per resident doesn’t say how dangerous driving is. This statistic might as well just show driving participation. Low death countries look like countries with lots of public transport use.
As a Polish person who likes to drive calmly, at the speed limit, and keep the distance to the next car… driving in Norway was an absolute pleasure. I wish we will be at this level someday in Poland.
The tolerance many people have for speeding is ridiculous here.
I once rented a car on a trip to Italy.
Never again. They are crazy.
And the UK manages the 3rd lowest mortality rate in this map all without jaywalking laws.
As a Bulgarian driver who drives daily in the capital, I can confirm this is not exaggerated. The amount of people that try to collide with your car is stunning. The worst part is that everybody tries to overtake you when you drive with the speed limit.
Last year we had this incident where a young driver killed two people crossing the street while driving 100km/h while the speed limit was 50km/h.
The only places where the speed limit is kept are the speed cameras. They are marked with a sign so everybody slows down around them.
Was on vacation in Denmark recently and I can only wonder why the number is not 0. They are so relaxed!!!
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I’ve not seen it in this format. I’m surprised Italy is not higher. The things I’ve seen and experienced on Italian roads will stay with me forever.
It doesn’t surprise me. Two things I’ve noticed on my first day of driving here:
Many drivers are awful at keeping safety distance behind. They just have no understanding whatsoever of this concept. I’m talking about drivers that will be less than 3 meters behind you on a highway doing 120kph. This is especially true if they think you drive too slowly and there’s just one lane (mind you, I never drive on the left lane, only use it for passing cars and then go back to right/middle).
And the other common sin is that when drivers pass you from the left (if you’re lucky) they cut right in front of you. They don’t speed nicely ahead and then switch back to your lane, they will just hop back to your lane 20cm in front of you, causing you to break. So again, lack of understanding of safety distance and response times.
Add to that the fact that most drivers seem to think speed limits are minimum limits and not maximum limits, that 50 means 80 and 80 means 110, and that a lot of them drive mediocre cars with mediocre tires… and you’re gonna get a lot of accidents, and pretty bad ones.
And r/portugalcykablyat strikes again.
As a person who (rarely) drives in Romania and keeps it at a steady 50km/h in cities/villages, it is incredible how big of a line I can make behind me, while having nobody in front basically.. which means most people are going over the speed limit.
Not just that, but they also tailgate you like crazy. I like to keep at least 10-15m between me and the next car but they stay at like 1 car length..
I can’t stand impatient drivers.. so naturally I stopped driving for my sanity. I guess all those impatient people are thankful too, since I won’t bother them with my respecting the speed limit.
A better metric would be e.g. mileage-based. Per resident really makes no sense as the mode of transport can be quite different.
Motorbike tour in norway it is.
Just went on vacation in Greece and I can fully understand why their numbers are so high.
People there drive like absolute morons (especially the dumbasses on mopeds). The infrastructure is weird as hell, some intersections make no sense and the on / off ramps are basically constructed to make the likelihood of accidents as high as possible. Also, lots of people with completely destroyed / ancient and unserviced vehicles.
Having taken a few taxis in Malta, I’m genuinely surprised that it’s so low
what happened to those numbers?!
Most Brits will say that people drive badly. But most of it is either speeding or being impolite (cutting people off etc).
People follow the laws at junctions and ‘wait their turn’. A lack of doing that seems to be the problem in Europe.
While Estonia isn’t particularly good on this statistic, i went to Rally Poland in 2017. I have never been so consistently scared behind the wheel than i was driving the smaller Polish B roads around the rally.
Portugal, WTF? i always thought you people where easygoing.
For Portugal, a big part of it has to be the wide assortment of slow moving vehicles/tractors/etc that force you to pass them in sketchy spots and dummies who park in the road and turn on their 4 way flashers and go into a cafe or whatever.
In fairness I’m just back from Portugal and our taxi driver said there were four speed cameras in the algarve and two were broken so wonder if that has anything to do with it?
r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
It would be more meaningful to show road deaths per 1million km driven.
Portugal is not more dangerous than Italy🧐
Didn’t know it was so high for Latvia, but pretty reasonable since quite a bit of people tend to drive over the speed limit
The Netherlands number is including any kind of transportation. For car driving the number would be 11. For bicycles it’s 15. Rest is pedestrian, moped, etc.
https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/nieuws/2024/15/684-verkeersdoden-in-2023
In Croatia you gotta be careful for ministers on the road. They can literally kill you without consequences for themselves. Last year defence minister was drunk driving and killed some guy. Ruling party is so incredibly corrupt here that he hasn’t even been indicted 11 months later.
Bulgaria beat us again, not fair!
Anything below 47 is good trust me.
Could be worse… USA is 128
No worries, Finland is heading to orange zone when speed cameras are busted and not much of police presence on streets with Christmas lights chasing offenders.
https://yle.fi/a/74-20114184
This is or isnt a valid criticism but imo this statistik is not that meaningfull. Yes it takes the population into account, but not the drivin kilometers. What i mean is, that a country with many residents can have a small amount of deaths bcs they just dont drive therefore seem to be safer. Same country with same death/mio driven km will have a higher deathrate bcs they drive more therefore seem leds save. I dont want to defend anyone, just a critisims on the methode. I for example live in Germany, and as far as i know, do we declare our deaths with death/ mio km driven.
I’d love to see the Italy map divided into North and South.
Portugal is Eastern European once again
*sighs in bulgarian* Yes.
I read “Europe’s deadliest countries for **diving**” and thought “Wow… Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria and Hungary must have really dangerous lakes or underwater caves”
I am actually surprised with Poland , I would expect less.
Also surprised with France. ABout 5 years I went there and it was kind of madness.
In my opinion, the area around Naples, Italy should be around 100…
A statistic per resident doesn’t say how dangerous driving is. This statistic might as well just show driving participation. Low death countries look like countries with lots of public transport use.
As a Polish person who likes to drive calmly, at the speed limit, and keep the distance to the next car… driving in Norway was an absolute pleasure. I wish we will be at this level someday in Poland.
The tolerance many people have for speeding is ridiculous here.
I once rented a car on a trip to Italy.
Never again. They are crazy.
And the UK manages the 3rd lowest mortality rate in this map all without jaywalking laws.
As a Bulgarian driver who drives daily in the capital, I can confirm this is not exaggerated. The amount of people that try to collide with your car is stunning. The worst part is that everybody tries to overtake you when you drive with the speed limit.
Last year we had this incident where a young driver killed two people crossing the street while driving 100km/h while the speed limit was 50km/h.
The only places where the speed limit is kept are the speed cameras. They are marked with a sign so everybody slows down around them.
Was on vacation in Denmark recently and I can only wonder why the number is not 0. They are so relaxed!!!