‘It’s just not affordable to live alone’



‘It’s just not affordable to live alone’

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/oct/05/it-is-a-lot-cheaper-for-couples-single-people-feel-penalised-on-prices

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  1. >“The rent in a house share these days is nuts compared with how it was a couple of years ago.

    >“I live in a house share with four others, and at the moment I’m paying £869 [a month], and then they are going to put this up to £950 in the next month for, literally, a room that’s not even in the city centre,” he says. “It’s just not affordable to live alone.”

    £950 a month for a room…

  2. There are many people in this country who are struggling horribly to make ends meet through no fault of their own. These people deserve sympathy.

    But some people not in this group seem to aspire to victimhood. The first dude in the article was able to move from one affluent country to another affluent country to live and work. In London whilst being in his early twenties no less. By most definitions of the word, he is privileged.

    The second person owned her own house, was able to choose to move to another and therefore presumably could afford a mortgage in the current climate and owns and runs a car. Again, compared to the majority of those 40-odd or under, privileged.

    Raising awareness that economies of scale apply to people pooling resources? While we’re at it should we raise awareness of the wetness of water?

  3. £950 a month for a room is insane. I pay £600 a month for a 3 bedroom house with drive for 2 cars and a garden. That’s the increased price too as it was £500 a few years ago. When I add council tax, energy, water and broadband it’s still not quite up to £950.

  4. Society failing people again. I’m fortunate enough to have a career that earns me more than most households do so this doesn’t apply to me.

    However, the number of people in situationships rather than relationships is extremely high, whether they agree or not.

  5. The rich don’t want us poors to own property, they want us to know our place and keep paying housing scalpers – this is a feature not a bug.

  6. My friend’s partner used to rack up thousands on credit cards, and now that she’s left him, he feels loaded. I think living alone can go either way. 😂

  7. Well yeah, we import a million people a year. Of course the cost of housing has gone through the roof!

  8. I mean living on your own is an inefficient use of property and a privilege most people in history have not had.

    That being said housing is ridiculously expensive

  9. Too many comments telling people that they should just move away from London.

    Who is going to do the jobs that these people leave?

    It’s kind of a problem for the city if it’s basically unaffordable for ordinary people.

  10. I (28M) & a mate managed to get a solid 2 bed flat in a northern town for £550pcm in mid-2021.

    3 1/2 years later…
    2 rents increases (£600pcm currently)
    1 spare bedroom now my flatmate left

    I’m getting by month-to-month but I’m not growing my savings.

    Rent + bills = roughly £1,000+ a month.

    If that’s the cost of an independent adult life then I’ll pay it.

    It is what it is, I’m not sure life will dramatically improve anytime soon.

  11. I guess I’m used to paying £950pcm for a room in a shared house. It’s fine. I mean, I’m never going to be able to buy a house but, at least for now, I can survive.

    I can’t imagine how students or minimum wage employees can possibly live in London though!

  12. London’s always been shit and just gets worse, had a small room in a council flat by Fulham for £900 a month before bills, now the new tenants price has gone up to £965

  13. It’s going this way everywhere. Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Canada is the worst-case scenario. Whole economy is one big Ponzi scheme built around real estate, parliament is stuffed with landlords on all sides of the aisle, supposedly left-wing government bringing in unbelievable amounts of migrants to keep the whole thing afloat.
    Canada’s population has grown by 10% in 3 years.

    Starmer’s going to do nothing to fix it, the tories aren’t going to fix it, no one’s going to fix it. The whole world’s entered a new era of feudalism. You’ve got the capital owners making money off their assets, and you’ve got the serfs who drag themselves into work everyday to increase the value of those assets. This is going to get worse. It’s not going to get better.

  14. About to get worse under Labour if the Single Person household Council Tax discount is removed.

  15. In my small town in the East Midlands a room in a shared house can range anywhere from 650 to 850 a month, half the time not including bills

  16. I’m high up for one of the biggest businesses in the uk, I literally sit opposite the plant director and he’s my direct report.

    Last week I saved the business 210k, the months before around 2 million and increased our production OEE by 15%. I can’t afford to rent a 2 bed on my wages, im in council housing. For perspective a Maccies manager earns 50% more than me. Big business is a waste of time, the housing market is cooked and yes, my company owns 1000’s of houses in the UK as a side hustle for the shareholders.

  17. When I had to move out of my ex’s house 7/8 years ago, I got a house share for £395. I now pay £600. *For a bedroom*. There are househares in my area that go for £700-800 for the privilege of living with 6-7 other people. It’s all wrong. A single person should at LEAST be able to rent a 1 bedroom flat – impossible because with rent and bills you’re looking at £1200 in my area when I only earn £1400 for working full-time in a reputable financial company.

  18. Don’t really have any sympathy for these people when they continue to vote in pro mass migration parties. You’ve brought this on yourselves.

  19. Everyone on the ‘London’ side is saying you need to be there for certain jobs.

    Which jobs are these?

  20. I mean, I live in High Wycombe and my tiny (but 2 bed) flat is £900 a month. I have a network rail card and my company lets me travel off peak to work so it’s £20 a day, or I can get a bus to Amersham and hop on the tube. I’ve never lived in London for that reason. Yes commuting is long but I can do it an hour each way and it’s my relaxing time. I consider living by myself a luxury of course but there are house shares here too, one of my friends lives with 3 people and pays about £500 a month.

  21. No longer feeling ashamed about living with my mother at 27 at least 🙁

    Hell, the only reason she can afford the house we live in now (3 bedrooms. Though my bedroom is literally 6 foot 3 inches wide. Just enough for a bed and a drawer) is because me and my sister pay towards the rent so it’s 3 of us to afford the house.

    I’ll never get my own place it seems. Not unless I look into a 50 grand a year job which might cover a small studio flat 🙁

  22. > costs to be single in the UK. We wanted to know how much single people pay for various things – from housing costs and bills to holidays and entertainment – and if they feel they are being penalised or are losing out financially when compared with couples or families.

    Aging population and expensive life as a singleton? Maybe the solution is to encourage people to live together or cohabitat or get married and have lovely children?

  23. Ruh roh raggy, looks like he’ll have to move in with Fred. At least they can move stuff in the mystery machine

  24. Can’t afford a house, can’t afford to have solitude and be alone, can’t even rent a flat alone or a room, to get your own peace.

    Boomers wonder why our generation has so much mental health issues.

  25. Single here, stuck living with parents and it feels like I have absolutely no way out of this despite the saving advantage. Single people get overlooked far too much in discussions about housing, we’re brushed aside like an irrelevance.

    Single people being unable to live secure independent lives actually worth living in return for working should not be fucking normalised or accepted.

  26. The fate of the country now hinges on Angela Raynor and Rachel Reeves ability to gut the Town County Planning Act…

  27. This is just the tip of the iceberg when t comes to renting, particularly in London. If you haven’t attempted to rent in the past few years, there are other things that make it costly on top of the extortionate rents:

    * The advertised price often not the final price, which requires blind bidding, where agencies and landlords see bids, but the bidders don’t. Agencies play on this, knowing each persons financial status in advance, such as salaries, outgoings etc., while driving prices up based on fear of losing out.
    * Agencies are pushing the idea of paying rent upfront to secure the property during the bidding process. In my current place I needed to pay 6 months upfront, even with a high income and a clean history, and that was ON TOP of the deposit. It was the equivalent of what I would have paid a few years ago as the deposit for a mortgage, once again making it even more difficult to get on the property ladder.
    * More and more people are being forced to move on a yearly basis, because there are essentially no caps in England to how much rent can be raised. For example, 10 months into renting my last place, after paying all my furniture, moving costs, transfers etc., rent was put up 25% “take it or leave it”. Both options are costly. Pay for another costly move, or pay the 25% hike.
    * Application processes are insane now. In my current place, I had a massive questionnaire to fill out, including several paragraphs of my interests, hobbies, abilities to carry out repairs, photos of myself and my partner. It then required 3 interviews where they delved into every aspect of my life which was completely absurd, but we needed to suck it up.

    Those are just the things off the top of my head. The whole process stinks and is destroying our country.

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