The battle Russia has not yet fought: The mental health of its war veterans



The battle Russia has not yet fought: The mental health of its war veterans

https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-10-06/the-battle-russia-has-not-yet-fought-the-mental-health-of-its-war-veterans.html

by Gjrts

45 comments
  1. They don’t care about their actual health. Mental health isn’t even an afterthought for their veterans! But then not many countries do care too much about the mental health of their veterans so Russia will be in good company there.

  2. Medicine for that is vodka, it’s widely used for that purpose already from WW2 and is freely available all over the Russia. Yes, it has multiple side effects which all end up with lower life expectancy. But life in rural Russia in old age is not living worthy anyway, so it’s considered as benefit.

  3. Lol. Russia was such a peaceful country until 2022. Not single war since WWII. Not a single war veteran until recently.

  4. My bet is that they won’t deal with it. Alcoholism and drug use will rise same with crime rate.

  5. Daily business: come home beat your wife and mother the sh*t out and kill them. Then sent to front again. Repeat.

  6. It will be a HUGE fucking issue yet again, and yet again they’re going to ignore it and sweep it under a rug.

  7. Why would Russia care about them? They already helped Russia to invade others, Kremlin doesn’t value them anymore.

  8. The people’s mental health is not a problem for a country that doesn’t give a shit about its people.

  9. The solution? Easy! Just let them all die, that has been the Kremlin’s plan from the start

  10. “The mental health of terrorist,rapists and violent alcoholics,drug addicts and other scum that somehow survived invading Ukraine” – wtf you supposed to do with such people, they aren’t just mentally ill, they are worst kind of criminals, except they were legalized and encouraged by russian government.

  11. Do they have veterans at all? I thought they leave the front only in body bags (the lucky ones)

  12. Yeah man, let’s pardon a bunch of convicted rapists, murderers and what not and throw them straight into a literal war zone where they can freely indulge in their violent fantasies, there’s no way this can backfire

    If I were a civilian living at the border I’d invest in some additional home security, those guys are known to go AWOL

  13. The veterans from the Afghan war are still in *really* rough shape, some 45 years later. This one is so much worse than the war in Afghanistan. Regions outside of Moscow and SPB will become an absolute hellhole where any man you see on the street could potentially have massive PTSD.

  14. Oh it’s starting. They’re already coming back and doing about as well as you’d expect.

    For some reason they’ve seen the Russian govt give no shit about the Afghanistan vets and the Chechen wars vets, but they thought “well they’ll take care of US though”.

  15. This is one of the reasons you don’t do wars, but do the diplomacy. Russia is quite unlikely to be a nice place to live after the war for quite a while. Hard to imagine the depression of one million mentally injured people coming home from the war, and not to the money they used to during the wartime. Hello, Germany after WW1. Ukraine will be most probably likewise. Just insane.

  16. The Ministry of Defense entered into a contract with Ruslan
    Derbichev, who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and has a permanent
    disability. about this spoke
    Ivan Shukshin, the author of the Telegram channel with a register of
    “terrorist extremists”, filled by RosFinMonitoring, . Derbichev’s
    brother was previously on this register, was in contact with Shukshin
    and therefore asked him to spread the story about sending a sick
    relative to the front. He also sent photographs of medical certificates
    containing his brother’s diagnoses. Derbichev’s main diagnosis
    is “paranoid schizophrenia, episodic course with an increasing defect,
    incomplete remission” – this is category D, unfit for military service.
    One of the documents dated November 2021 states that the man needs to be
    evacuated to a psychiatric hospital at his place of residence.
    Moreover, Ruslan has had the second group of disability for an
    indefinite period for 4 years now. By a court decision dated
    November 24, 2023, Ruslan was deprived of his driver’s license; the
    court indicated a diagnosis of “organic personality disorder of behavior
    in connection with mixed diseases. Persistent pronounced psychological
    syndrome.” The court argued that there was an “imminent threat to road
    safety” and revoked his license. However, nothing prevented the
    authorities from handing over weapons to such a person.

  17. Russia will likely do what they did in the past: not providing for veterans and selling cheap liquor. Obviously, the war is detrimental to Russia’s economy and society.

  18. Suggesting that they ever cared about this in their history. I recommend you research how they were handling PTSD in Soviet Union (Spoiler alert they weren’t).

  19. The solution most likely will be copious amounts of vodka and cigarettes.

    Russia doesn’t respect its veterans unless it’s to do with engraving their tombstones

  20. A war, especially on such a scale, will naturally cause PTSD in soldiers. And considering that the Russian authorities do not care about their citizens, soldiers remain with mental illnesses. The bad thing is that these soldiers, after returning, begin to commit crimes, including murder. Already 227 people have received serious injuries from the actions of veterans, 242 people were killed by these veterans.

  21. At this point, for ruzzia it would be easier to start another war than to deal with their assault meat.

  22. Bold (naive?) of the author to think that the Russians will try to tackle the PTSD of surviving mobiks and contract troops as if they had Westernized public health policy.

    The Russians will merely recycle their pool of deranged survivors as cannon fodder or straight-up terrorists the next time they want to scratch their imperialist itch. [They already set the precedent in 2022 for everyone to see by unleashing mentally unfit men on Ukraine](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-recruiting-soldiers-mental-asylum-ukraine-war-1739963).

  23. Mental health is not a concept in russia, if you are depressed just drink or beat your wife

  24. It’s nothing new. Their vetarans from Afghanistan are dying of alcohol and drug use – of course nobody cares.

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