Australisches Gericht verurteilt Mann wegen verbotenem Hitlergruß



Australisches Gericht verurteilt Mann wegen verbotenem Hitlergruß

https://apnews.com/article/nazi-salute-melbourne-guilty-australia-6b161a2ed1a0f43ad6efcd7de92af44b

21 comments
  1. *| the gesture wasn’t a salute and that the ban unconstitutionally infringed upon Hersant’s implied freedom of political communication.*

    Who raised y’all!

  2. I assume you can’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater in Australia comparable to the US… However, the US does allow the nazi salute, and labels it as free speech, which is ridiculous.

  3. That is crazy. Y’all got to do better. Putting somebody in jail over expression is backwards. Sure you may not like it. But freedom of speech is important

  4. Fuck that guy.

    Fundamentally I disagree with outright banning particular gestures, but I believe the law is against doing it in a threatening or intimidating manner.

    That’s much easier to live with.

  5. Hersant … gave the salute and praised Nazi leader Adolf Hitler … six days after the Victoria state government had made the salute illegal.

    Classic FAFO

  6. Freedom of expression comes with consequences. This is how freedom works. And this Nazi is now receiving the consequences of his freedom derived through expression. People need to read law and fully comprehend what freedom is. Freedom of speech or other forms of freedoms are not some open invite to spread hate. America or Australia, freedom isnt free, fuck around and find out.

  7. Good. We need to start doing this in the US. Germany & Australia know you can’t let this shit go unchecked… 

  8. Americans are welcome to their much looser ideas regarding free speech but I’m happy to have our stricter interpretation.

  9. Austrakians are awesome!! Do not let nazis and ultra-rights tale advantage in your country!

  10. So this is a minefield but I’ll ask the question anyway… are these kinds of actions protected under parody laws? One thinks of the Fawlty Towers episode where John Cleese’s character mimics Nazi behaviour and (from memory) salutes multiple times.

    Would this episode be banned now? Would John Cleese be charged if he re-enacted this scene on Australian soil?

    Genuinely curious how this would play out.

    Because if this kind of thing was protected then could this guy not used that as a defence? Or did the Court determine intent in this case?

  11. Ok now he can use the excuse of not arresting the protestors for holding up pictures of terrorists.

  12. Now how are you going to take care of Outback Steak house for misrepresentation of Australians

  13. How does this work? Does context matter? For example can you argue that you were filming a skit and that you didn’t mean it? They can do the salute in films I imagine, so can you argue that you were doing a work of fiction?

  14. ahahah and here in germany there are tons of idiots like him and we do nothing at all

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