Now stock up on popcorn. We are in for a wild wild ride.
Kemi Badenough vs Dishonest Bob. Who’d have thunk it.
The Tories lurching to the right seems to be the story of the last 20 years.
Have they done their maths ok? 2024 Tory vote + a lot of remain > Starmer vote – loss of votes
Also Badenoch is capable of withering Starmer in debates.
They’re both absolute dogshit people but the UK culture industry will intensively gaslight us that their mindless bigotry and appeals for us to strip ourselves of our hard-won human rights is “making some good points”
Good on Badenoch, I was concerned she’d be ousted for Cleverley but now I think she’s got this sown up, I’m not sure the Torys can win in 5 years but I think Badenoch will be a great figurehead in the interim.
I’m increasingly hearing political pundits saying something went wrong, a miscalculation where Cleverly supporters tried to knock out the next strongest candidate. With only 120 MP’s they screwed it up.
They seem determined to become the US Republicans, without understanding the key elements of Republicans strategy. Crucially that the multi-layered nature of US politics means that efforts to secure power locally can be used to manipulate the national system, such that you don’t actually need many votes at all to win big national victories.
The Conservatives here haven’t done anything like the amount of ground work and hard graft which Republicans have done for the past 30+ years to get the system to a place where their insane ideas can succeed.
Dumb and dumber – not sure which way.
How does this even happen?
Where are the normal competent people?
I wouldn’t be too gleeful. If Labour don’t miraculously undo 14 years of Tory damage in less than 5, you just know we’ll end up with a far right government like the rest of Europe.
The reaction from some Labour and Lib Dem supporters makes me uncomfortable. The gleeful certainty seems to learn no lessons from how volatile politics has been in recent years, and seems naive to what a right wing populist as the Tory leader might do to politics and general discourse.
We’ll be voting ourselves out of the ECHR in no time. We love a lying Tory.
It was dumb to eliminate Cleverly. James has decided to have a mood dependent name, today he is James Disappointingly.
Complacency that is badly misplaced. A Labour/Lib Dem person might look at these two and consider them “extreme”, “unelectable” etc, but the people voting are going to be the same population that voted for Brexit, gave Boris a landslide, and are already very fed up with Labour. It’s highly likely that Badenoch/Jenrick will appeal to that pissed off set of people.
The funniest part is no one can admit that this was a fuck up as it makes them look incompetent.
James O’Brien said on his show the other day that if the tories elect Badenoch to the leadership, Labour will have to officially declare it as a gift.
Hahaha Tories just gave the labour party another term for free. Jenrick is a no name whose only claim to fame is being the opposition to Badenoch, a crazy racist moron.
Tories, as always, being the Tories worst enemy.
Kemi is gonna dig her teeth deep into everyone she goes against.
Not sure why they are gleeful about a weak conservative party or anything that gives reform a boost for that matter
> One Nation wing of the party yet are left with a choice between two rightwingers as a result of attempts at tactical voting. “We’ve just been too clever by half,” one said.
Even when they lose they think they’re smart.
I think the glee will be short lived. Labour and Lib Dems would find it much easier to beat a Conservative party under a centrist “me too” leader, who is ighting a right wing and Reform agenda in parallel. It would be a re run of the 2024 election.
With these two on the short list, the Conservative party will now elect a leader from the right of the party. This being the first since Thatcher. Like her or loathe her, she won elections after a period of Socialist rule.
Only a right wing Conservative leader will open the way for the party to reconnect with the roughly 40% of their vote thats presently sitting with Reform. Whether they merge or squeeze Reform doesn’t matter. What should matter to Labour and Lib Dems is that a reunification of these two groups will , on present polling at least, significantly out perform Labour at the polls.
The next election should be the first one with a real choice for the voters since 1979. Socialist tax and spend, liberal immigration and pro EU convergence versus Conservative small government, lower tax lower spend, immigration control and judicial and trade independence from European interference.
Let the voters decide.
Time for some fresh faces. All of this lot are tainted forever.
Watch either one of them get aggressively promoted by the culture machine.
Kemi will be ‘a breath of fresh air’ who ‘understands what people care about’ and who’s ‘representative’ (wink)
Jenrick will be your classic ‘strong’ and ‘pragmatic’ type who’s tired of Labour’s woke dogma and will imbue ‘common sense’ into the debate
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Now stock up on popcorn. We are in for a wild wild ride.
Kemi Badenough vs Dishonest Bob. Who’d have thunk it.
The Tories lurching to the right seems to be the story of the last 20 years.
Have they done their maths ok? 2024 Tory vote + a lot of remain > Starmer vote – loss of votes
Also Badenoch is capable of withering Starmer in debates.
They’re both absolute dogshit people but the UK culture industry will intensively gaslight us that their mindless bigotry and appeals for us to strip ourselves of our hard-won human rights is “making some good points”
Good on Badenoch, I was concerned she’d be ousted for Cleverley but now I think she’s got this sown up, I’m not sure the Torys can win in 5 years but I think Badenoch will be a great figurehead in the interim.
I’m increasingly hearing political pundits saying something went wrong, a miscalculation where Cleverly supporters tried to knock out the next strongest candidate. With only 120 MP’s they screwed it up.
They seem determined to become the US Republicans, without understanding the key elements of Republicans strategy. Crucially that the multi-layered nature of US politics means that efforts to secure power locally can be used to manipulate the national system, such that you don’t actually need many votes at all to win big national victories.
The Conservatives here haven’t done anything like the amount of ground work and hard graft which Republicans have done for the past 30+ years to get the system to a place where their insane ideas can succeed.
Dumb and dumber – not sure which way.
How does this even happen?
Where are the normal competent people?
I wouldn’t be too gleeful. If Labour don’t miraculously undo 14 years of Tory damage in less than 5, you just know we’ll end up with a far right government like the rest of Europe.
The reaction from some Labour and Lib Dem supporters makes me uncomfortable. The gleeful certainty seems to learn no lessons from how volatile politics has been in recent years, and seems naive to what a right wing populist as the Tory leader might do to politics and general discourse.
We’ll be voting ourselves out of the ECHR in no time. We love a lying Tory.
It was dumb to eliminate Cleverly. James has decided to have a mood dependent name, today he is James Disappointingly.
Complacency that is badly misplaced. A Labour/Lib Dem person might look at these two and consider them “extreme”, “unelectable” etc, but the people voting are going to be the same population that voted for Brexit, gave Boris a landslide, and are already very fed up with Labour. It’s highly likely that Badenoch/Jenrick will appeal to that pissed off set of people.
The funniest part is no one can admit that this was a fuck up as it makes them look incompetent.
James O’Brien said on his show the other day that if the tories elect Badenoch to the leadership, Labour will have to officially declare it as a gift.
Hahaha Tories just gave the labour party another term for free. Jenrick is a no name whose only claim to fame is being the opposition to Badenoch, a crazy racist moron.
Tories, as always, being the Tories worst enemy.
Kemi is gonna dig her teeth deep into everyone she goes against.
Not sure why they are gleeful about a weak conservative party or anything that gives reform a boost for that matter
> One Nation wing of the party yet are left with a choice between two rightwingers as a result of attempts at tactical voting. “We’ve just been too clever by half,” one said.
Even when they lose they think they’re smart.
I think the glee will be short lived. Labour and Lib Dems would find it much easier to beat a Conservative party under a centrist “me too” leader, who is ighting a right wing and Reform agenda in parallel. It would be a re run of the 2024 election.
With these two on the short list, the Conservative party will now elect a leader from the right of the party. This being the first since Thatcher. Like her or loathe her, she won elections after a period of Socialist rule.
Only a right wing Conservative leader will open the way for the party to reconnect with the roughly 40% of their vote thats presently sitting with Reform. Whether they merge or squeeze Reform doesn’t matter. What should matter to Labour and Lib Dems is that a reunification of these two groups will , on present polling at least, significantly out perform Labour at the polls.
The next election should be the first one with a real choice for the voters since 1979. Socialist tax and spend, liberal immigration and pro EU convergence versus Conservative small government, lower tax lower spend, immigration control and judicial and trade independence from European interference.
Let the voters decide.
Time for some fresh faces. All of this lot are tainted forever.
Watch either one of them get aggressively promoted by the culture machine.
Kemi will be ‘a breath of fresh air’ who ‘understands what people care about’ and who’s ‘representative’ (wink)
Jenrick will be your classic ‘strong’ and ‘pragmatic’ type who’s tired of Labour’s woke dogma and will imbue ‘common sense’ into the debate