HomeIrelandSinn Féin row with Brian Stanley deepens over referral of claims to Garda Uncertainty in Garda about nature of complaint filed, with one source saying it was not filed in Dublin or with Garda HQ
Sinn Féin row with Brian Stanley deepens over referral of claims to Garda
Uncertainty in Garda about nature of complaint filed, with one source saying it was not filed in Dublin or with Garda HQ
October 15, 2024
Sinn Féin row with Brian Stanley deepens over referral of claims to Garda Uncertainty in Garda about nature of complaint filed, with one source saying it was not filed in Dublin or with Garda HQ
Ah here, I know people are spamming the fuck out of this, but it hardly warrants a mega thread because they’re doing nothing else are work all day.
Surely it was lodged in Laois? Not a fan of the Shinners but the amount of coverage this story has been getting seems completely disproportionate.
“A source said the referral did not appear to have been lodged in Dublin or with Garda headquarters.”
Quick question someone might be able to answer. If I lodged a complaint somewhere, for example Laois or Offaly, would this show as having been lodged in Dublin or with Gardai HQ? I’d be fairly sure it would depend on the seriousness of the complaint but someone might let me know.
Maybe someone “lost” the paperwork?
The mods aren’t newspaper editors – can we lose the politically motivated stickies?
*Ditch uncovers story on mainstream politician with unpaid parking ticket* “Why aren’t the mainstream media reporting this”. *Mainstream media cover story on prominent TD quitting party in bizarre circumstances* “Why are the mainstream media reporting this”
I can’t wait to hear where else the complaint wasn’t filed.
From the article: Mr Stanley’s resignation was followed by a referral of the matter to the Garda by Sinn Féin, which is now facing criticism for not doing so sooner in the process. It is understood there was some uncertainty in the Garda on Monday about how, and through which route, Sinn Féin had filed their referral, with attempts made yesterday in the force to locate it. A source said the referral did not appear to have been lodged in Dublin or with Garda headquarters.
The party also revealed the gender of the complainant as a woman for the first time in the statement, as well as clarifying the exact timeline as to when it received the complaint. Ms McDonald was contradicted by Mr Stanley earlier in the day after she said it was received in early August, with Mr Stanley saying it was initially made on July 26th.
Article mentions a woman. Jesus, this story is glacial.
Sorry, on what basis are Gardaí providing information like this to newspapers? On what basis are they looking for the complaint unless it’s been assigned to them?
Did we not have a series of scandals previously about Gardaí using Garda records for their personal gain and/or to satisfy their curiosity. I thought that behaviour was supposed to have stopped?
Shinners right now
Id lean towards SF myself but fucking hell their optics are awful. What stupid shit to be having in headlines so close to an election. They arent going to ‘win’ regardless, but still, they really need to get themselves sorted out. So much silly shit lately.
I’ll admit I’ve never been comfortable with SF on child affairs ever since they tried to help Gerry Adam’s pedo brother evade justice. But this definitely has put the nail in it. I know individual members may be ok, but as a party I’d not trust them as they seem to constantly refuse to take ownership of their screw ups and shortcomings. If Mary Lou came out and laid bare the whole affair without covering up bits or trying to shift blame, it would do a lot of earn trust, but the sad reality is that won’t happen and we’ll see a continuation of shifting stories and attempts to shift blame.
I feel like I’m going to bitterly disappointed when this complaint is made public.
“Mary Lou won’t stop putting the toaster in the press, the proddy”!
So everyone has come to the conclusion that SF only went to the Gardai because Stanley resigned and went running to the media. Is there any chance that the initial complaint wasn’t something you would report to Gardai but during their internal investigation they found reportable evidence, informed Stanley on Friday they’d be reporting and he then tried to get out ahead of it?
This bit may be very farfetched but the rte article are referring to the political parties having their usual channels to report to the Gardai that are different to the general public, any chance that’s a Mon-Fri service that they were planning to use Monday but then Stanley pulled the trigger over the weekend?
Not trying to defend SF here if they are in the wrong but just trying to be open minded and explore all possibilities as the attack on SF by the government and media is very convenient timing it has to be said.
I thought Sinn Fein IRA had their own policing unit for these things?
I’ve not seen the complaint personally, but I feel rather qualified to talk about it in detail
Stanley sent inappropriate text messages to a 17 year old party member from NI. They were not sexual. So he could have just been rude, aggressive or something? BBC says there were personal.
PSNI took the complaint in September and decided there was nothing to investigate.
Given SF suspended Stanley, which barred him from selection, and they deliberately hid the fact from Stanley that they suspended him it does seem a bit of a mad by SF. They should publicly come out and say what the complain was, and that PSNI dismissed it.
Then they should explain the goings on in the party for their own sake
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It just keeps getting better and better.
Schrödshinner’s complaint
Maybe they filed it with the kangaroo cops?
Ah here, I know people are spamming the fuck out of this, but it hardly warrants a mega thread because they’re doing nothing else are work all day.
Surely it was lodged in Laois? Not a fan of the Shinners but the amount of coverage this story has been getting seems completely disproportionate.
“A source said the referral did not appear to have been lodged in Dublin or with Garda headquarters.”
Quick question someone might be able to answer. If I lodged a complaint somewhere, for example Laois or Offaly, would this show as having been lodged in Dublin or with Gardai HQ? I’d be fairly sure it would depend on the seriousness of the complaint but someone might let me know.
Maybe someone “lost” the paperwork?
The mods aren’t newspaper editors – can we lose the politically motivated stickies?
*Ditch uncovers story on mainstream politician with unpaid parking ticket*
“Why aren’t the mainstream media reporting this”.
*Mainstream media cover story on prominent TD quitting party in bizarre circumstances*
“Why are the mainstream media reporting this”
I can’t wait to hear where else the complaint wasn’t filed.
From the article:
Mr Stanley’s resignation was followed by a referral of the matter to the Garda by Sinn Féin, which is now facing criticism for not doing so sooner in the process.
It is understood there was some uncertainty in the Garda on Monday about how, and through which route, Sinn Féin had filed their referral, with attempts made yesterday in the force to locate it.
A source said the referral did not appear to have been lodged in Dublin or with Garda headquarters.
The party also revealed the gender of the complainant as a woman for the first time in the statement, as well as clarifying the exact timeline as to when it received the complaint. Ms McDonald was contradicted by Mr Stanley earlier in the day after she said it was received in early August, with Mr Stanley saying it was initially made on July 26th.
Article mentions a woman. Jesus, this story is glacial.
Sorry, on what basis are Gardaí providing information like this to newspapers? On what basis are they looking for the complaint unless it’s been assigned to them?
Did we not have a series of scandals previously about Gardaí using Garda records for their personal gain and/or to satisfy their curiosity. I thought that behaviour was supposed to have stopped?
Shinners right now
Id lean towards SF myself but fucking hell their optics are awful. What stupid shit to be having in headlines so close to an election. They arent going to ‘win’ regardless, but still, they really need to get themselves sorted out. So much silly shit lately.
I’ll admit I’ve never been comfortable with SF on child affairs ever since they tried to help Gerry Adam’s pedo brother evade justice. But this definitely has put the nail in it. I know individual members may be ok, but as a party I’d not trust them as they seem to constantly refuse to take ownership of their screw ups and shortcomings. If Mary Lou came out and laid bare the whole affair without covering up bits or trying to shift blame, it would do a lot of earn trust, but the sad reality is that won’t happen and we’ll see a continuation of shifting stories and attempts to shift blame.
I feel like I’m going to bitterly disappointed when this complaint is made public.
“Mary Lou won’t stop putting the toaster in the press, the proddy”!
So everyone has come to the conclusion that SF only went to the Gardai because Stanley resigned and went running to the media. Is there any chance that the initial complaint wasn’t something you would report to Gardai but during their internal investigation they found reportable evidence, informed Stanley on Friday they’d be reporting and he then tried to get out ahead of it?
This bit may be very farfetched but the rte article are referring to the political parties having their usual channels to report to the Gardai that are different to the general public, any chance that’s a Mon-Fri service that they were planning to use Monday but then Stanley pulled the trigger over the weekend?
Not trying to defend SF here if they are in the wrong but just trying to be open minded and explore all possibilities as the attack on SF by the government and media is very convenient timing it has to be said.
I thought Sinn Fein IRA had their own policing unit for these things?
I’ve not seen the complaint personally, but I feel rather qualified to talk about it in detail
[Gardaí so far unable to locate letter Sinn Féin claims it submitted on Brian Stanley allegation](https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-letter-brian-stanley-sinn-fein-6515699-Oct2024/)
“Sinn Féin has told The Journal that a party official delivered the letter to Kevin Street Garda Station at 4pm on Sunday.
The Journal has made a number of enquiries with garda sources and as yet gardaí have not been able to locate the letter.”
lol
BBC have it now :https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpdq7yewx09o
Stanley sent inappropriate text messages to a 17 year old party member from NI. They were not sexual. So he could have just been rude, aggressive or something? BBC says there were personal.
PSNI took the complaint in September and decided there was nothing to investigate.
Given SF suspended Stanley, which barred him from selection, and they deliberately hid the fact from Stanley that they suspended him it does seem a bit of a mad by SF. They should publicly come out and say what the complain was, and that PSNI dismissed it.
Then they should explain the goings on in the party for their own sake