HomeUkraineVolodymyr Zelenskyy has presented a plan for Ukraine’s victory. According to the president, if everything goes according to plan, the war can be ended by the end of 2025.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy has presented a plan for Ukraine’s victory. According to the president, if everything goes according to plan, the war can be ended by the end of 2025.
October 16, 2024
Volodymyr Zelenskyy has presented a plan for Ukraine’s victory. According to the president, if everything goes according to plan, the war can be ended by the end of 2025.
by Ihor_S
30 comments
Not possible. Go on.
Source: Volodymyr Zelensky official Facebook page, Presentation of the Victory Plan to MPs and the Ukrainian community
Zelensky’s plan (with his comments):
* The first is an invitation to NATO. * Putin must see that his geopolitical calculations are losing. This is a sign of determination, a clear vision of the partners’ vision of Ukraine’s future. * The second point is defense. * Successful continuation of operations of the Defense and Security Forces of Ukraine in certain areas of enemy territory to prevent buffer zones on our land; * irreversible strengthening of the positions of the Defense and Security Forces of Ukraine and destruction of Russia’s offensive potential in the occupied territory of Ukraine; * Assistance from partners in manning reserve brigades for the Armed Forces of Ukraine; * Bringing Ukraine’s air defense system to a level sufficient to protect our cities and villages from Russian missiles and drones, and joint defense operations with our neighbors in Europe to shoot down Russian missiles and drones within the range of our partners’ air shield; * expanding operations using our own and Ukrainian missiles and drones, as well as investing in expanding their production in Ukraine; * lifting restrictions on the use of long-range weapons by our partners on the entire territory of Ukraine occupied by Russia and on the territory of Russia – on military infrastructure, and providing Ukraine with appropriate long-range missiles, drones and other means of destruction; * providing Ukraine with real-time satellite data and data obtained by other intelligence means. * The third point of the Plan is Deterrence. * Ukraine proposes to deploy a comprehensive non-nuclear strategic deterrence package on its soil that will be sufficient to protect Ukraine from any military threat from Russia and that will narrow Russia’s options to such prospects: * Either join an honest diplomatic process to bring the war to a just end. Or, it is guaranteed to lose the opportunity to continue the aggressive war as a result of Ukraine’s use of the deterrence package in accordance with the defined military objectives. * That is, the Deterrence Package is a fact that Russia either goes to diplomacy or goes… to the loss of its war machine. Peace through strength.
I would love to see this happen call me what you want ..
Ukrainian military replacing US troops in selected NATO countries? The fuck?
Improbable, but not impossible. Hoping for the best ✌️for Victory and Peace for Ukraine 🇺🇦
>Assistance from partners in manning reserve brigades for the Armed Forces of Ukraine;
Not sure I get this one. What kind of assistance? Deporting male refugees that could be drafted?
Russia MUST have its nuclear arsenal removed so long as it remains a country run by a dictator and mafia thugs.
Its better than a concept of a plan.
Invitation to NATO
Ok that’s not happening. That would invoke Article 5 immediately. And if that’s not happening, then the rest of it is a dead issue.
Strengthening sanctions against Russia should have already happened and development of strategic and economic potential (recovery) is already being conducted.
So that is the big plan they talk about since months?
Most of it are points we already known and on Ukraines wish list since a long time, however point 1 already tells me that this plan wont work, i know everyone wants it but a country joining NATO with unresolved conflicts wont work and since every NATO member needs to agree on Ukraine joining i also dont see that happening.
Russia can not be forced off the territory of Ukraine. Russia needs to collapse for them to withdraw.
This would be great, not going to happen… but would be great.
I deem it a good start and the EU got to pick up the undiplomatic pieces. We cannot deter a people disregarding life like Russia does. Our victory is in treating Russians the Russian way. As a start the Russian cities have to go.
So many delusional users in the comment section here
The fourth have secret applications and looks like a candy so that other parties will be convinced. Sounds like a deal for oil gas and other resources.
Absolutely dreaming to think that will happen 😂
NATO invite should be a swap with Hungary
Unfortunately, I don’t seem much support for these steps in the West. Political leaders don’t want escalation or get more involved:(
The Republicans that will be against this plan would be blatantly against the USA, so MAGA. (I only mention the USA because part of the plan saves the USA a lot of money)
NATO wont even defend their own skies from russian encroachment. So many of these points are never going to get a pass from our idiot/asshole leaders because they are still scared of russia’s threats. They wont even supply enough materials to help Ukraine defend properly.
This is practically dead in the water, even though its a viable path to end the war.
Where is the source of this plan? i mean the official document? 🤔
The plan relies too much on western action and they are too incompetent to do something
This. Or Russian takes over Ukraine and go further. That should be clearly explained to the West.
They stopped care, because they see that it will take forever for Putin to even get to the borders of Donbas.
They stopped care because they don’t see and feel any threat from Russia.
Not going to happen, unfortunately, NATO countries are slowly trying to reduce its support for Ukraine because of Money.
Russia is publicly spying in most NATO countries, influencing its politics, violating airspaces constantly without firm reaction.
Hopefully, I’m wrong but I highly doubt it.
Did I understand it correctly that NATO should shoot down russian drones and missiles?
This is not a plan but begging for NATO and EU help
#1 is the biggest hurdle.
As much hope as I have for Ukraine, I don’t see Russia allowing any of this without serious conflict from both sides. I believe this list is more of a wishful thinking that could work if full cooperation from all sides were in effect. I just don’t see that happening. Maybe after the election? Idk but I pray for Ukraine and stand with them.
Point three is advocating for WMDs, saying nonnuclear means chemical and biological are still on the table.
I would just like to point out that Item 1 isn’t possible. I am pretty sure NATO membership requirements include being in no active conflicts for an applicant nation.
I don’t understand the purpose of Item 5, if someone can explain to me, please let me know!
30 comments
Not possible. Go on.
Source: Volodymyr Zelensky official Facebook page, Presentation of the Victory Plan to MPs and the Ukrainian community
Zelensky’s plan (with his comments):
* The first is an invitation to NATO.
* Putin must see that his geopolitical calculations are losing. This is a sign of determination, a clear vision of the partners’ vision of Ukraine’s future.
* The second point is defense.
* Successful continuation of operations of the Defense and Security Forces of Ukraine in certain areas of enemy territory to prevent buffer zones on our land;
* irreversible strengthening of the positions of the Defense and Security Forces of Ukraine and destruction of Russia’s offensive potential in the occupied territory of Ukraine;
* Assistance from partners in manning reserve brigades for the Armed Forces of Ukraine;
* Bringing Ukraine’s air defense system to a level sufficient to protect our cities and villages from Russian missiles and drones, and joint defense operations with our neighbors in Europe to shoot down Russian missiles and drones within the range of our partners’ air shield;
* expanding operations using our own and Ukrainian missiles and drones, as well as investing in expanding their production in Ukraine;
* lifting restrictions on the use of long-range weapons by our partners on the entire territory of Ukraine occupied by Russia and on the territory of Russia – on military infrastructure, and providing Ukraine with appropriate long-range missiles, drones and other means of destruction;
* providing Ukraine with real-time satellite data and data obtained by other intelligence means.
* The third point of the Plan is Deterrence.
* Ukraine proposes to deploy a comprehensive non-nuclear strategic deterrence package on its soil that will be sufficient to protect Ukraine from any military threat from Russia and that will narrow Russia’s options to such prospects:
* Either join an honest diplomatic process to bring the war to a just end. Or, it is guaranteed to lose the opportunity to continue the aggressive war as a result of Ukraine’s use of the deterrence package in accordance with the defined military objectives.
* That is, the Deterrence Package is a fact that Russia either goes to diplomacy or goes… to the loss of its war machine. Peace through strength.
I would love to see this happen call me what you want ..
Ukrainian military replacing US troops in selected NATO countries? The fuck?
Improbable, but not impossible. Hoping for the best ✌️for Victory and Peace for Ukraine 🇺🇦
>Assistance from partners in manning reserve brigades for the Armed Forces of Ukraine;
Not sure I get this one. What kind of assistance? Deporting male refugees that could be drafted?
Russia MUST have its nuclear arsenal removed so long as it remains a country run by a dictator and mafia thugs.
Its better than a concept of a plan.
Invitation to NATO
Ok that’s not happening. That would invoke Article 5 immediately. And if that’s not happening, then the rest of it is a dead issue.
Strengthening sanctions against Russia should have already happened and development of strategic and economic potential (recovery) is already being conducted.
So that is the big plan they talk about since months?
Most of it are points we already known and on Ukraines wish list since a long time, however point 1 already tells me that this plan wont work, i know everyone wants it but a country joining NATO with unresolved conflicts wont work and since every NATO member needs to agree on Ukraine joining i also dont see that happening.
Russia can not be forced off the territory of Ukraine. Russia needs to collapse for them to withdraw.
This would be great, not going to happen… but would be great.
I deem it a good start and the EU got to pick up the undiplomatic pieces.
We cannot deter a people disregarding life like Russia does. Our victory is in treating Russians the Russian way.
As a start the Russian cities have to go.
So many delusional users in the comment section here
The fourth have secret applications and looks like a candy so that other parties will be convinced. Sounds like a deal for oil gas and other resources.
Absolutely dreaming to think that will happen 😂
NATO invite should be a swap with Hungary
Unfortunately, I don’t seem much support for these steps in the West. Political leaders don’t want escalation or get more involved:(
The Republicans that will be against this plan would be blatantly against the USA, so MAGA.
(I only mention the USA because part of the plan saves the USA a lot of money)
NATO wont even defend their own skies from russian encroachment. So many of these points are never going to get a pass from our idiot/asshole leaders because they are still scared of russia’s threats. They wont even supply enough materials to help Ukraine defend properly.
This is practically dead in the water, even though its a viable path to end the war.
Where is the source of this plan? i mean the official document? 🤔
The plan relies too much on western action and they are too incompetent to do something
This. Or Russian takes over Ukraine and go further. That should be clearly explained to the West.
They stopped care, because they see that it will take forever for Putin to even get to the borders of Donbas.
They stopped care because they don’t see and feel any threat from Russia.
Not going to happen, unfortunately, NATO countries are slowly trying to reduce its support for Ukraine because of Money.
Russia is publicly spying in most NATO countries, influencing its politics, violating airspaces constantly without firm reaction.
Hopefully, I’m wrong but I highly doubt it.
Did I understand it correctly that NATO should shoot down russian drones and missiles?
This is not a plan but begging for NATO and EU help
#1 is the biggest hurdle.
As much hope as I have for Ukraine, I don’t see Russia allowing any of this without serious conflict from both sides. I believe this list is more of a wishful thinking that could work if full cooperation from all sides were in effect. I just don’t see that happening. Maybe after the election? Idk but I pray for Ukraine and stand with them.
Point three is advocating for WMDs, saying nonnuclear means chemical and biological are still on the table.
I would just like to point out that Item 1 isn’t possible. I am pretty sure NATO membership requirements include being in no active conflicts for an applicant nation.
I don’t understand the purpose of Item 5, if someone can explain to me, please let me know!