Recession in Germany and its future

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1. I am not hopeful unfortunately. Germans take way too much time to get things done. Combine it with a workforce that doesn’t want to change things, and you’re looking at a country in decline.

2. Recessions are part of our economic system. For me personally a recession for two years in a row are not very alarming though it is of course a difficult time to live in when looking at employment, wage development, job search, self employment etc.

   To make a decision where I want to live for the future I’d personally would take a look at the bigger picture if Germany is the country you want to spend your future in. If the recession keeps on extending and you face more existential problems like job loss you can be forced to make a decision.

   Is that a general sentiment for you that once a recession hits the country you live in you contemplate to move?

3. You may think about a potentialy new field of work and learn in that direction , with the hope its usefull after. Or you switch countries to a better one, if there is one.

4. The biggest issue, is that people in germany have become very complacant.

   People in public sector jobs working for the government just are not interested in going beyond the absolute minimum. My wife, who works for the local government, hears the “oh, well, this is not our job” on a weekly basis. Nobody cares about the outcome of what is happening. If someones life is ruined by a stupid decision made somehwere, “dann ist es halt so”.

   Public sector jobs should be held by people “that care” not by people who “want a comfortable life”

   In the private sector, you have many innovative and efficient mid-sized companies, but the majority of large companies, especially in the automative sector, have workforces that copy the work-ethics of the public sector. Its all about “how do I minimize my own exposure to risk” and “how do I have to do as little as possibe”, etc.

   I have many friends that are migrants, working for German companies, and the number of people that have reported being told “to slow down” by colleagues from Germany, because “they are making them look bad by working so fast” is staggering.

   Let’s not even start to talk about politics. Nobody does anything, nobody cares about anything. Everything has become about populist polemics, to appease some voter-base. Nothing is being done. There are not enough Kita Places, public transportation is a shit show, not enough doctors, public institutions are swarmed, the judiciary is slow, the police does not actually fight crime, etc.

   Even in the context of the one topic, that is constantly in the focus of public discussion, which is the “refugee crisis”, nothing is actually being solved. The system in place is the same that was in place in 2015, it is the same laws, the same processes, etc. The only thing that changed, ist that Ukranians do not have to wait for their Aufenthalt (thank good, because otherwise nothing will get done). What else? Bezahlkarte ? Seriously ?

   All of this, is a hard-to-swallow pill. Because this not just “oh, the government didn’t do its work” its bascially “nobody is doing anything” and on an individual level, nobody really cares. This means, yes everybody is annoyed, that the system is broken, but nobody really wants to do anything about it. Nobody feels morally obligated to do anything, and everybody is just complacant.

   It is a disaster in the making, and the changes needed are not just politics, but prmarily cultural.

5. Tell me 3 points why you want to live in Germany for the next 10-20 years ?

6. We had similar problems 20 years ago. There’s a good chance we can turn it around again. When CDU comes to power, there will be an end to the “Schuldenbremse”, and that may help some.

   Also consider who else is doing better, and whether they would take you and whether you can actually make a better living there. Most people in Germany won’t have it much or any worse in the next decade. That actually includes those who are perpetually on welfare.

7. The problem is not the recession itself. Countries can solve them. Unfortunately Germany loses all it competitve industries these days and years. It‘s a similar road like Japan. The difference is that Japan has a society that sticks together very well so I believe they can survive even a dead economy. Germany.. not so sure about that. It‘s gonna be rough once the social system can‘t sustain itself anymore.

8. Just move to Switzerland. You get more money, pay less taxes and it’s economically more stable.

9. Germany is s country functioning as it still in the 80s and all are living in the comfort zone.

   China took advantage of this and unfortunately the fix is very hard.

   The question now is, what Germany as a future average economy country looks like?

10. What exactly the issue?
    – Bureaucracy? People here very risk averse, coming up with new business idea and registering company the next day is not a thing here.

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