They should be objecting to the fact that the metro isn’t more than half a line!
Noting will ever be built in this country. You would think that a fucking park was somehow unique to dublin, and no other country has ever built infrastructure. Or maybe they are jealous of all the money that they could be using for bike sheds
20% of the park will be a construction site for years. 54 trees will be felled.
OPW is probably going a bit too hard on this, but since they’re also tasked with maintaining the “historical” park, they are the group that should be objecting. And they will probably fail in their objections.
Rome built a metro station between the colleseum and the forum. Ireland can’t build one in a bloody park.
Again this is an issue with our political system, short term gains made from obstructing vital public infrastructure.
For the record I think the metro should be built but it is a shame and pity that part of Stephen’s Green has to sacrificed. But it is just that that a shame and a pity. Also for the record I don’t think the project will get far beyond the planning phase, Stephen’s Green is just one problem with the route chosen. The other one I remember is pub that had a court order to prevent it being demolished and re-done as it was historically significant to the area.
This is the result of lots generations of politicians and political parties using the planning process to find way to stop stuff being built. Now is impossible to build anything. The metro project will just added to the list of rail projects to be done in the future. People didn’t complain when the underground DART project shelved.
So it was never about building capacity, but overregulation / corruption / incompetence and way too much red tape / admin crap?
You can fly to 3 airports in and around London for dirt cheap. You arrive and walk to the train, tap on and have a comfy seat. You’re delivered in to a central train station, tap off and walk over to a tube station, tap in and go literally anywhere you want in the city on a tube or bus, tap off outside e.g. Big Ben or Buckingham Palace. You walk around spend money eat drink etc then back on the tube/bus to go somewhere else. And repeat. All contactless, no huge queues, no delays or ghost buses that don’t turn up. No fannying around with topping up leap cards. If there’s a match on they put more trains on to get everyone around faster. Everything’s colour coded and loads of signage and maps.
The actual state of Dublin. Bank holidays/concerts/games they actually put LESS trains and buses on. Getting to and from the airport involves waiting on the rain on a bus that’s unreliable. A foreign tourist trying to get the shuttle bus to the Blue Car Park must find the bus stop (which is coloured green) and wait for the bus (coloured green) with the words “blue car park” (written in red).
Just imagine if Dublin was:
– dirt cheap to fly to from europe/the UK
– straight on to a train to city centre from airport
– tap on and off public transport
– great reasonably priced pubs and restaurants
– hotels not full of temporary homeless and asylum seekers (I.e. the govt actually doing their jobs)
Dublin could be thronged with tourists. The hotels would be packed, restaurants and pubs packed, shops thriving, with young people visiting from the UK and Europe. Lack of infrastructure and ripoff culture means the town is a desolate crime ridden kip forcing restaurants etc to ramp up prices even more and so on.
So tldr, Stephens green should have a fucking stop outside it. Insane how anyone with influence in planning is vehemently against it. It’s like saying Leicester square shouldn’t have a tube station.
Where were the OPW when that ugly glass block was built at the entrance to Dublin Castle? Are they only interested in blocking the construction of useful things?
It is possible to build a metro entrance with a Victorian or Georgian exterior
I think metro should go around entire Dublin to keep its skyline and historical character /s
Tell em it’ll have a bike shed. They’ll soak it with money
Does the article go into the OPW points of objection?
New idea. We kick all people out of Dublin City. Encase the entire city in a larger building. Designate the whole city as a museum. Work tirelessly to ensure nothing ever changes in to to preserve it’s “history” or what ever.
Pick a random spot in the midlands and build a new city that bans any form of historical preservation of architecture. Now we can actually build a city for humans to live in instead of a museum.
This thread is either full of bots trying to spread discord, or a lot of Irish redditors have fallen down every conspiracy rabbit hole going. Either way none of the guff in the thread makes sense.
I will die on the hill that the OPW is the most useless government organisation for at least the last decade.
Seriously. Just remove those dinosaurs at the OPW. They don’t care about anybody in generation
ITT top commenters repeating their top comments endlessly.
Tell the opw there’s been a change of plan. It’s not a metro stop, it’s a bicycle shelter that’s costing €50m. They’ll have no bother with that.
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How the actual fuck is this allowed.
They should be objecting to the fact that the metro isn’t more than half a line!
Noting will ever be built in this country. You would think that a fucking park was somehow unique to dublin, and no other country has ever built infrastructure. Or maybe they are jealous of all the money that they could be using for bike sheds
20% of the park will be a construction site for years. 54 trees will be felled.
OPW is probably going a bit too hard on this, but since they’re also tasked with maintaining the “historical” park, they are the group that should be objecting. And they will probably fail in their objections.
Rome built a metro station between the colleseum and the forum. Ireland can’t build one in a bloody park.
Again this is an issue with our political system, short term gains made from obstructing vital public infrastructure.
For the record I think the metro should be built but it is a shame and pity that part of Stephen’s Green has to sacrificed. But it is just that that a shame and a pity. Also for the record I don’t think the project will get far beyond the planning phase, Stephen’s Green is just one problem with the route chosen. The other one I remember is pub that had a court order to prevent it being demolished and re-done as it was historically significant to the area.
This is the result of lots generations of politicians and political parties using the planning process to find way to stop stuff being built. Now is impossible to build anything. The metro project will just added to the list of rail projects to be done in the future. People didn’t complain when the underground DART project shelved.
So it was never about building capacity, but overregulation / corruption / incompetence and way too much red tape / admin crap?
You can fly to 3 airports in and around London for dirt cheap. You arrive and walk to the train, tap on and have a comfy seat. You’re delivered in to a central train station, tap off and walk over to a tube station, tap in and go literally anywhere you want in the city on a tube or bus, tap off outside e.g. Big Ben or Buckingham Palace. You walk around spend money eat drink etc then back on the tube/bus to go somewhere else. And repeat. All contactless, no huge queues, no delays or ghost buses that don’t turn up. No fannying around with topping up leap cards. If there’s a match on they put more trains on to get everyone around faster. Everything’s colour coded and loads of signage and maps.
The actual state of Dublin. Bank holidays/concerts/games they actually put LESS trains and buses on. Getting to and from the airport involves waiting on the rain on a bus that’s unreliable. A foreign tourist trying to get the shuttle bus to the Blue Car Park must find the bus stop (which is coloured green) and wait for the bus (coloured green) with the words “blue car park” (written in red).
Just imagine if Dublin was:
– dirt cheap to fly to from europe/the UK
– straight on to a train to city centre from airport
– tap on and off public transport
– great reasonably priced pubs and restaurants
– hotels not full of temporary homeless and asylum seekers (I.e. the govt actually doing their jobs)
Dublin could be thronged with tourists. The hotels would be packed, restaurants and pubs packed, shops thriving, with young people visiting from the UK and Europe. Lack of infrastructure and ripoff culture means the town is a desolate crime ridden kip forcing restaurants etc to ramp up prices even more and so on.
So tldr, Stephens green should have a fucking stop outside it. Insane how anyone with influence in planning is vehemently against it. It’s like saying Leicester square shouldn’t have a tube station.
Where were the OPW when that ugly glass block was built at the entrance to Dublin Castle? Are they only interested in blocking the construction of useful things?
It is possible to build a metro entrance with a Victorian or Georgian exterior
I think metro should go around entire Dublin to keep its skyline and historical character /s
Tell em it’ll have a bike shed. They’ll soak it with money
Does the article go into the OPW points of objection?
New idea. We kick all people out of Dublin City. Encase the entire city in a larger building. Designate the whole city as a museum. Work tirelessly to ensure nothing ever changes in to to preserve it’s “history” or what ever.
Pick a random spot in the midlands and build a new city that bans any form of historical preservation of architecture. Now we can actually build a city for humans to live in instead of a museum.
This thread is either full of bots trying to spread discord, or a lot of Irish redditors have fallen down every conspiracy rabbit hole going.
Either way none of the guff in the thread makes sense.
I will die on the hill that the OPW is the most useless government organisation for at least the last decade.
Seriously. Just remove those dinosaurs at the OPW. They don’t care about anybody in generation
ITT top commenters repeating their top comments endlessly.
Tell the opw there’s been a change of plan. It’s not a metro stop, it’s a bicycle shelter that’s costing €50m. They’ll have no bother with that.
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