>With the “Masterplan HB/Central 2050”, the city of Zurich is developing a basis for future urban planning at this important hub in the centre of Zurich.
It reminds me a lot of the concept from St.Gallen – [Grünes Gallustal](https://www.gruenesgallustal.ch/) whether and to what extent it will be realised is written in the stars.
What’s your opinion on these “facelift/modernisation concepts”?
>__Online exhibition on the first stage of test planning__
Less place for cars means more place for the city. Trees bring so much as they help dealing with the urban heat.
creating more space for people using the station is a good thing.
Less cars = yes.
Less trams = no.
A M A Z I N G 🥳
I’m glad the projects all acknowledge that the traffic around the station is the main issue of HB.
I would hope that by 2050 there’s not a single car allowed to go inside the city, but not sure that it has any chance to happen. Banning them around the train station would be a nice small first step.
I think yellow streets would look strange. I am not sure i would like them. But maybe they would make Zurich more instagrammable.
Ooooh more pedestrian bridges, nice
They should be focused on building more housing rather than do more construction in an already congested place where people just want to get in and out. No one is trying to spend more time around HB for leisure, there are better places already with less hectic atmosphere
The cars going through this area contribute almost nothing to the transportation volumes compared to the public transport, especially the train station which is one of the busiest in the world. But the area pays dearly for allowing cars, it’s a total non-place that no one wants to spend time in. So removing the cars is a long overdue measure.
Now the trams I don’t quite understand. If they have a good strategy to reroute them then fine but I think connectivity between the train station and the tram network is quite important.
Ridiculous. I don’t see how making HB more difficult to reach is an improvement. Isn’t that the whole point of an HB ?
HB is a transportation hub, meaning people should be able to switch between train, tram, bus, quickly. This project ignores that. Switching between means of public transport gets complicated as tram stops get decentralised and are further away from the station. Same for the bus. I understand the desire to reduce car traffic, but in the end cars and taxis are important means of getting to the station. Do you know of a major train station with such a limited accessibility by car as shown in the plan? I don’t.
So in summary, this plan seems to be driven by ideological thoughts (make city green) instead of functional ones…
I like the idea of banning surface motorized traffic around the Hauptbahnhof, although I’d like to see details of the planned alternative.
Moving the Central stop might be a good idea, the current situation there is rather messy.
I’m skeptical about removing the Löwenplatz stop; the current setup is not without its problems, but I think it basically works.
Banning cars and making it more green is super, I’m all in for that. But reducing trams is just incredibly stupid.
I think it’s generally good when areas that were previously completely covered in concrete get more green again. Especially in times of climate change, the hot summers can be mitigated in this way. So I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this vision can be realized. It is an opportunity for the future and a trailblazer for other cities.
As someone living in Zug, I get to Zürich mostly by public transport (not often, but once, twice a week).
But in some occasions, I have to transport a LOT of equipment – then I use my car. I even wouldn’t mind a congestion charge to be honest – But the proposal to move the HB traffic to the Quai bridge will make the traffic in that area of the city unbearable.
And this is just the status quo in terms of citizens in the economic area – which currently is growing massively. I am really worried how the whole transport (public, private) system will play out medium term when the population continues to grow at similar speeds. It needs massive investments to stem that raise, or our standard of living in that regard will shrink. As the „old“ solution – home office – somehow ran out of favor.
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>With the “Masterplan HB/Central 2050”, the city of Zurich is developing a basis for future urban planning at this important hub in the centre of Zurich.
It reminds me a lot of the concept from St.Gallen –
[Grünes Gallustal](https://www.gruenesgallustal.ch/) whether and to what extent it will be realised is written in the stars.
What’s your opinion on these “facelift/modernisation concepts”?
>__Online exhibition on the first stage of test planning__
https://testplanunghbcentral.ch/
Article with more information in German:
https://www.watson.ch/schweiz/zuerich/739214671-zuerich-hauptbahnhof-mit-baeumen-und-wenig-verkehr-radikale-plaene
Less place for cars means more place for the city. Trees bring so much as they help dealing with the urban heat.
creating more space for people using the station is a good thing.
Less cars = yes.
Less trams = no.
A M A Z I N G 🥳
I’m glad the projects all acknowledge that the traffic around the station is the main issue of HB.
I would hope that by 2050 there’s not a single car allowed to go inside the city, but not sure that it has any chance to happen. Banning them around the train station would be a nice small first step.
I think yellow streets would look strange. I am not sure i would like them. But maybe they would make Zurich more instagrammable.
Ooooh more pedestrian bridges, nice
They should be focused on building more housing rather than do more construction in an already congested place where people just want to get in and out. No one is trying to spend more time around HB for leisure, there are better places already with less hectic atmosphere
The cars going through this area contribute almost nothing to the transportation volumes compared to the public transport, especially the train station which is one of the busiest in the world. But the area pays dearly for allowing cars, it’s a total non-place that no one wants to spend time in. So removing the cars is a long overdue measure.
Now the trams I don’t quite understand. If they have a good strategy to reroute them then fine but I think connectivity between the train station and the tram network is quite important.
Ridiculous. I don’t see how making HB more difficult to reach is an improvement. Isn’t that the whole point of an HB ?
HB is a transportation hub, meaning people should be able to switch between train, tram, bus, quickly. This project ignores that. Switching between means of public transport gets complicated as tram stops get decentralised and are further away from the station. Same for the bus. I understand the desire to reduce car traffic, but in the end cars and taxis are important means of getting to the station. Do you know of a major train station with such a limited accessibility by car as shown in the plan? I don’t.
So in summary, this plan seems to be driven by ideological thoughts (make city green) instead of functional ones…
I like the idea of banning surface motorized traffic around the Hauptbahnhof, although I’d like to see details of the planned alternative.
Moving the Central stop might be a good idea, the current situation there is rather messy.
I’m skeptical about removing the Löwenplatz stop; the current setup is not without its problems, but I think it basically works.
Banning cars and making it more green is super, I’m all in for that. But reducing trams is just incredibly stupid.
I think it’s generally good when areas that were previously completely covered in concrete get more green again. Especially in times of climate change, the hot summers can be mitigated in this way. So I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this vision can be realized. It is an opportunity for the future and a trailblazer for other cities.
As someone living in Zug, I get to Zürich mostly by public transport (not often, but once, twice a week).
But in some occasions, I have to transport a LOT of equipment – then I use my car.
I even wouldn’t mind a congestion charge to be honest – But the proposal to move the HB traffic to the Quai bridge will make the traffic in that area of the city unbearable.
And this is just the status quo in terms of citizens in the economic area – which currently is growing massively.
I am really worried how the whole transport (public, private) system will play out medium term when the population continues to grow at similar speeds. It needs massive investments to stem that raise, or our standard of living in that regard will shrink. As the „old“ solution – home office – somehow ran out of favor.
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