The bipartisan leaders of the U.S. Helsinki Commission are calling on [President Biden The bipartisan leaders of the U.S. Helsinki Commission are calling on President Biden to greenlight NATO ally Poland to extend its air defense to Ukraine’s skies, helping shoot down Russian missiles under the guise of self-defense, in a letter obtained exclusively by The Hill. ](https://thehill.com/people/joe-biden/)
Reps. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) and Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), the chair and ranking member, respectively, sent a letter asking Biden “to grant Poland the authority to intercept and neutralize missiles over Ukraine, particularly those threatening to encroach upon Polish airspace.”
The request is based on a push by Poland to use its air defense shields and possibly extend them, which would defend their skies against Russian missiles but also assist Ukraine in its defense.
And while Secretary of State Antony Blinken at the time said the issue was part of discussions among NATO allies, then-Secretary-General [Jens Stoltenberg ](https://thehill.com/people/jens-stoltenberg/)rejected the proposal, saying it risked NATO “becoming part of the conflict.”
NATO Secretary-General [Mark Rutte,](https://thehill.com/people/mark-rutte/) who assumed his duties in October, has not yet addressed the issue, and NATO did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Presumably they need permission because they want to use American tech. And unfortunately I think it’s unlikely they’ll get a green light.
Why the fuck do they need US approval for god sakes take off the gloves already
ye let them!
If Israel is so far successfull it means it doesn’t care shit about what America said and later they know they are like puppets who will play along
Another red line that will be painted after being crossed
Poland, romania should probably take part in summer courses in belarus in how to shoot down ru missiles and drones
This is so stupid
our government is traitors, we Poles do not want war with Russia and we do not want to interfere with this war in any way!
100%
But I was told this would cross red lines.
Countries should just do this. And then start buying their military equipment elsewhere. There are many places that make that stuff that is as good or better than American made. America just has bigger factories. If people start buying elsewhere, those places will grow their factories. Countries should not be beholden to American policies. It’s already too much now.
By all means Poland
I wish people would stop saying “But why does country need another countries permission!”. If you have a modicum of understanding of geopolitics, it would be a very easy answer.
The US will refuse and then you’ll have to read comments later from US people telling EU to do more.
If my neighbor kills the burglar in my house, I will bake him a fuckin’ cake.
If my ally says you can’t, then they can’t have a slice.
The US defends Israeli airspace against Iranian ballistic missiles. Why the crap are we so cowardly and unwilling to do the same for Ukraine?
Other than polish jets in the air over Ukraine they can only effect the western most part with AA right?
The fact that Poland has to ask the US, clarifies the fact we 100% need to start to develop and use our own weapons and fund our own defence..
Can you imagine if someone was sending missiles through American airspace to shoot at Mexico? We’d make sure they never shoot another missile again.
And when those shot down missiles fall on innocent people the Ukrainians are gonna go bananas on the Poles.
If North Korea can literally have soldiers fighting Ukraine in Ukraine then the west should have no issue. Everyone was so scared of escalating the war by helping Ukraine well now Russia has escalated it. It’s done been escalated. If North Korea can help directly then so can we
Brother, Poland doesn’t even shoot down Russian missiles over Poland…
I mean… They only need Ukraine’s permission
The answer is yes. Shoot them all down. Whether my country likes it or not it is time to stop digging around with Russia and put them in their f****** place or else they will just continue to step on everyone. And if Putin wants to threaten nuclear war let’s remind him that are minute man three missiles will take out every good part of his country and that goes for North Korea also
The fact that the request was made makes me think the plan is in place and Poland was told “make the request so we can approve.”
Sure, but the condition should be that any Russian strike on AA targets inside Poland do not constitute a basis for activating article 5
“We”? Are you assuming that everyone here is naturally American?
It will be blocked even they actually asked this which I doubt.
Very strange policy of US to stop things like this. What could be the reason behind this?
Please remind us in 1 or 2 weeks, we’re currently busy right now
US is just gonna make all their friends and partners angry at them. Great job.
The Biden Administration doesn’t even want Poland to shoot down Russian missiles and drones over Poland
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The bipartisan leaders of the U.S. Helsinki Commission are calling on [President Biden The bipartisan leaders of the U.S. Helsinki Commission are calling on President Biden to greenlight NATO ally Poland to extend its air defense to Ukraine’s skies, helping shoot down Russian missiles under the guise of self-defense, in a letter obtained exclusively by The Hill. ](https://thehill.com/people/joe-biden/)
Reps. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) and Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), the chair and ranking member, respectively, sent a letter asking Biden “to grant Poland the authority to intercept and neutralize missiles over Ukraine, particularly those threatening to encroach upon Polish airspace.”
The request is based on a push by Poland to use its air defense shields and possibly extend them, which would defend their skies against Russian missiles but also assist Ukraine in its defense.
In November 2022, two Polish farmers were killed when [an errant Ukrainian missile](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-experts-confirm-missile-that-hit-grain-facility-was-ukrainian-media-2023-09-26/) fell in Polish territory. In March, Russian missiles attacking Ukraine [briefly crossed into Polish](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-missile-airspace-violation-c9d2511f169e9f80a08082726c118114) airspace.
Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski proposed the scheme in September [in an interview with the Financial Times](https://www.ft.com/content/5f7550f5-9ea9-495d-99ee-318276485dc3).
And while Secretary of State Antony Blinken at the time said the issue was part of discussions among NATO allies, then-Secretary-General [Jens Stoltenberg ](https://thehill.com/people/jens-stoltenberg/)rejected the proposal, saying it risked NATO “becoming part of the conflict.”
NATO Secretary-General [Mark Rutte,](https://thehill.com/people/mark-rutte/) who assumed his duties in October, has not yet addressed the issue, and NATO did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Presumably they need permission because they want to use American tech. And unfortunately I think it’s unlikely they’ll get a green light.
Why the fuck do they need US approval for god sakes take off the gloves already
ye let them!
If Israel is so far successfull it means it doesn’t care shit about what America said and later they know they are like puppets who will play along
Another red line that will be painted after being crossed
Poland, romania should probably take part in summer courses in belarus in how to shoot down ru missiles and drones
This is so stupid
our government is traitors, we Poles do not want war with Russia and we do not want to interfere with this war in any way!
100%
But I was told this would cross red lines.
Countries should just do this. And then start buying their military equipment elsewhere. There are many places that make that stuff that is as good or better than American made. America just has bigger factories. If people start buying elsewhere, those places will grow their factories. Countries should not be beholden to American policies. It’s already too much now.
By all means Poland
I wish people would stop saying “But why does country need another countries permission!”. If you have a modicum of understanding of geopolitics, it would be a very easy answer.
The US will refuse and then you’ll have to read comments later from US people telling EU to do more.
If my neighbor kills the burglar in my house, I will bake him a fuckin’ cake.
If my ally says you can’t, then they can’t have a slice.
The US defends Israeli airspace against Iranian ballistic missiles. Why the crap are we so cowardly and unwilling to do the same for Ukraine?
Other than polish jets in the air over Ukraine they can only effect the western most part with AA right?
The fact that Poland has to ask the US, clarifies the fact we 100% need to start to develop and use our own weapons and fund our own defence..
Can you imagine if someone was sending missiles through American airspace to shoot at Mexico? We’d make sure they never shoot another missile again.
And when those shot down missiles fall on innocent people the Ukrainians are gonna go bananas on the Poles.
If North Korea can literally have soldiers fighting Ukraine in Ukraine then the west should have no issue. Everyone was so scared of escalating the war by helping Ukraine well now Russia has escalated it. It’s done been escalated. If North Korea can help directly then so can we
Brother, Poland doesn’t even shoot down Russian missiles over Poland…
I mean… They only need Ukraine’s permission
The answer is yes. Shoot them all down. Whether my country likes it or not it is time to stop digging around with Russia and put them in their f****** place or else they will just continue to step on everyone. And if Putin wants to threaten nuclear war let’s remind him that are minute man three missiles will take out every good part of his country and that goes for North Korea also
The fact that the request was made makes me think the plan is in place and Poland was told “make the request so we can approve.”
Sure, but the condition should be that any Russian strike on AA targets inside Poland do not constitute a basis for activating article 5
“We”? Are you assuming that everyone here is naturally American?
It will be blocked even they actually asked this which I doubt.
Very strange policy of US to stop things like this. What could be the reason behind this?
Please remind us in 1 or 2 weeks, we’re currently busy right now
US is just gonna make all their friends and partners angry at them. Great job.
The Biden Administration doesn’t even want Poland to shoot down Russian missiles and drones over Poland
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