Sweden and Norway rethink cashless society plans over Russia security fears

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/30/sweden-and-norway-rethink-cashless-society-plans-over-russia-security-fears

Posted by Alex09464367

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  1. If Russia hasn’t started their own payment system, all cards inside the country would’ve gone down when the SWIFT was turned off.

    Which is kind of a dirty trick, I don’t see this hindering the war effort in any way, nor do I see Israel being cut off of it for example

    So “fears from Russia” or not, I do agree that having your cards die shows just how much you’re over-reliant on them. I think what Sweden and Norway are proposing are very good ideas. Honestly, we should learn to consider the possibilities “what if X goes down for 1 day? 3 days? A week?” and prepare accordingly. It may happen for completely non-nefarious reasons too.

    Like, this is why I don’t like over-reliance on electricity and local heating. It’s an incredible thing, but there was a big emergency 7 years ago and I went without power for about 23 hours. It’s not a lot, but we had Central Heating and gas stove. The only thing we were worried about was the freezer, thankfully the power was restored right as the freezer was about to start thawing, and we were preparing a BIG COOKOUT to save as much as we can by baking\cooking\boiling all of it.

    Imagine if your house is hit with a power outage for 2 days and your heating is powered with a pump that comes from electricity. You just lost all heat in the winter. It’s no good. And you can’t cook, too. You’ll have to go cook outside, which can be an issue if you’re not living in a suburb, but in a condo\flat\apartment.

    I’m not sure where I’m going with this. We need to normalise household power bricks? Continue using gas as a redundancy measure? People should consider all points of failure and plan accordingly? I don’t want to sound like a crazy prepper, but, like, heating in winter is not a question of comfort, but a survival thing, so at the very least you should have, as they suggest, enough cash at hand to just go out of your district, find a working motel, and camp there while the powerlines are getting fixed, I guess.

  2. Absolute kek these dumbasses are straight up seeing ruskies under their beds lmao – literally everything that’s wrong in Europe is Putin’s fault according to the usual suspects.

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