One outcome is going to put him in a much better position to do that than the alternative, but I admire his resolve.
“Ukraine, in any case, has no constitutional right to relinquish its legitimate state territories. Legally, this is just impossible, no matter what Putin imagines”
Well said.
Respect this man more than any US politician. Fuck Russia
Us Europeans will go it alone if needs be. We have enough in the stores to leave Putin reeling. Just praying trump doesn’t arm Putin if we end up looking at a win. Ukraine is Europe and Europe is Ukraine.
We need a real plan for the region when Putin dies, we can not let Russia continue this endless cycle of insanity.
Well, that’s a big FUCK YOU to Donald Trump. I like this man’s stance.
they shouldn’t have to
The problem is that it is now a war Ukraine will not win. We either have to up the aid and lift restrictions which increases the risk of this spiraling or we do as we did in Korea and accept compromises will have to be made for a ceasefire/peace.
The alternative is we keep up the current method to bleed Russia but at the same time bleed Ukraine to nothing and then eventually cut the aid further down the line.
End of the day as long as Russia can backdoor sale their oil to China or to India then back to the EU through India and get arms support from them they can keep this up FAR longer than Ukraine can just because of the population difference.
I don’t wanna hear a peep from any European hailing from a nation buying oil or gas from India seeing as it’s a backdoor way to bypass the oil and gas sanctions on what the US should or shouldn’t be doing.
We have our own economic and welfare issues that need to be addressed instead of funding everyone’s war efforts be it in eastern europe or the middle east.
Good. Ukraine should not cede anything
I admire Zelenskyy a lot but fear what it means when I still think this ends very badly for him.
Would you quintus? Would I?
It’s tempting to say that. To stop the slaughter. But . . . . Would we just give up southern Texas? Would we be like “ok cool y’all got south Florida. Can we still come on vacation?”.
I feel like the people who would advocate most for capitulation in Ukraine would also be the most vocal advocates to fight to the last man here in America.
Good. They shouldn’t.
Ok. What is your plan?
Don’t worry, Trump will do it for you – just like he gave Afghanistan to the Taliban without consulting the Afghan government – and just like he‘s going to protect women, whether they like it or not
(X) doubt
Nobody is expecting them to
Why the fuck should he?
UKRAINE STANDIN ON BIDNESS
De facto v de jure….yes….they will
A “ceasefire” and a “peace” with Russia gaining territory is just letting a mugger keep their knife stabbed in the stomach of their victim.
Territories concessions are a slow death sentence for the nationhood of Ukraine. Russia will keep biting pieces off from Ukraine until Ukraine stops existing.
If Kamala wins, that needs to be the day that the gloves come off and the US stops faffing around. Let Ukraine do what it needs to do to win.
My man!
They gave up nukes but they didn’t give up all fissile material. Any state can make a dirty bomb. Tons of options for the bold.
They need to restart nuclear weapons production. They have the expertise and materials and could have a bomb within 90 days.
Ukraine needs to strike Russia and attacks back. Fuck US and the west. Currently, Ukraine will likely lose, and when they lose, they will all be killed anyway.
Full on attack Russia. If the west doesn’t want to help, fuck them.
1994 borders must be respected — including Crimea.
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One outcome is going to put him in a much better position to do that than the alternative, but I admire his resolve.
“Ukraine, in any case, has no constitutional right to relinquish its legitimate state territories. Legally, this is just impossible, no matter what Putin imagines”
Well said.
Respect this man more than any US politician. Fuck Russia
Us Europeans will go it alone if needs be. We have enough in the stores to leave Putin reeling. Just praying trump doesn’t arm Putin if we end up looking at a win. Ukraine is Europe and Europe is Ukraine.
We need a real plan for the region when Putin dies, we can not let Russia continue this endless cycle of insanity.
Well, that’s a big FUCK YOU to Donald Trump. I like this man’s stance.
they shouldn’t have to
The problem is that it is now a war Ukraine will not win. We either have to up the aid and lift restrictions which increases the risk of this spiraling or we do as we did in Korea and accept compromises will have to be made for a ceasefire/peace.
The alternative is we keep up the current method to bleed Russia but at the same time bleed Ukraine to nothing and then eventually cut the aid further down the line.
End of the day as long as Russia can backdoor sale their oil to China or to India then back to the EU through India and get arms support from them they can keep this up FAR longer than Ukraine can just because of the population difference.
I don’t wanna hear a peep from any European hailing from a nation buying oil or gas from India seeing as it’s a backdoor way to bypass the oil and gas sanctions on what the US should or shouldn’t be doing.
We have our own economic and welfare issues that need to be addressed instead of funding everyone’s war efforts be it in eastern europe or the middle east.
Good. Ukraine should not cede anything
I admire Zelenskyy a lot but fear what it means when I still think this ends very badly for him.
Would you quintus? Would I?
It’s tempting to say that. To stop the slaughter. But . . . . Would we just give up southern Texas? Would we be like “ok cool y’all got south Florida. Can we still come on vacation?”.
I feel like the people who would advocate most for capitulation in Ukraine would also be the most vocal advocates to fight to the last man here in America.
Good. They shouldn’t.
Ok. What is your plan?
Don’t worry, Trump will do it for you – just like he gave Afghanistan to the Taliban without consulting the Afghan government – and just like he‘s going to protect women, whether they like it or not
(X) doubt
Nobody is expecting them to
Why the fuck should he?
UKRAINE STANDIN ON BIDNESS
De facto v de jure….yes….they will
A “ceasefire” and a “peace” with Russia gaining territory is just letting a mugger keep their knife stabbed in the stomach of their victim.
Territories concessions are a slow death sentence for the nationhood of Ukraine. Russia will keep biting pieces off from Ukraine until Ukraine stops existing.
If Kamala wins, that needs to be the day that the gloves come off and the US stops faffing around. Let Ukraine do what it needs to do to win.
My man!
They gave up nukes but they didn’t give up all fissile material. Any state can make a dirty bomb. Tons of options for the bold.
They need to restart nuclear weapons production. They have the expertise and materials and could have a bomb within 90 days.
Ukraine needs to strike Russia and attacks back. Fuck US and the west. Currently, Ukraine will likely lose, and when they lose, they will all be killed anyway.
Full on attack Russia. If the west doesn’t want to help, fuck them.
1994 borders must be respected — including Crimea.
[1994 Agreement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction)
Or no country should EVER make such deals again. Period.
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