Ukraine war briefing: western allies’ response to North Korean deployment is ‘zero’, Zelenskyy says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/01/ukraine-war-briefing-western-allies-response-to-north-korean-deployment-is-zero-zelenskyy-says

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  1. Dear west, get your shit together and stop being such pussies against North Korea, Iran and Russia. Sincerely.

  2. The US is not taking the bait. This is Russia’s move to disrupt the US elections. You’ll notice how mum the US and it’s allies are about this.

    This 10,000 soldiers are a token force, in the grand scheme of things.

  3. Apparently now North Korea declared war to Ukraine:

    [She said Pyongyang had no doubt that under Putin’s “wise leadership” the Russian army and people would “achieve a great victory in their sacred struggle to protect the sovereign rights and security interests of their state.””And we also assure that until the day of victory we will firmly stand alongside our Russian comrades,” she said.](https://www.reuters.com/world/north-korean-foreign-minister-arrives-moscow-talks-2024-11-01/)

  4. The timing was intentionally coincided with run-up to u.s election. Everyone’s too busy biting nails

  5. The issue is also that Ukraine doesn’t truly have committed allies. Western countries are, at best, supporters in limited ways. There is no willingness from these countries to put boots on the ground. The West would rather see Ukraine fall to Russia than engage militarily in Ukraine. It’s a sad reality.

  6. Any response right now would have a disproportionate impact on the US elections. I do think it’s wise to wait before the vote is in before taking any sweeping decisions.

    Anything would be framed as warmongering by MAGA and may be enough to tilt the election to their direction.

  7. We might joke about them being terribly trained and indoctrinated, but the simple truth is it’s still more manpower and they’re killing Ukrainians.

  8. Internal division and inaction have historically been factors in the downfall of empires and societies. Both the U.S. and the EU currently face significant internal divisions and, at times, inaction.

    I understand that this war, like any conflict involving a nuclear power, is complex. I also recognize that a war of attrition will likely weaken Russian society and diminish its political influence more over time than a swift defeat. Recent events, such as NATO’s expansion and Moldova’s pro-EU stance, highlight this shift.

    However, it’s sad to remember that the erosion of Russian power is coming at a great cost to Ukraine, paid in Ukrainian lives and blood.

  9. If Harris wins, I hope the first few days will include a step up in aid, opening up long range targeting etc.

  10. Western allies remember the second world War and are desperate not to repeat it. We have the cumulative ability to stomp out this conflict, but our governments are in the denial stage.

    What sort of Pearl Harbor event is it going to take to wake the beast up? This is crazy.

  11. The choice for the US to be less aggressive with geopolitics is just going to make these situations worse in the future.

    The west seriously needs the US to flex their muscles. Step one is Iran. It is pitiful that we would allow Iran to strike our allies directly, multiple times, without being brought to heel. This is weakness on the world stage. This is emboldening them.

    Iran is also providing Russia the bulk of their missles and drones. Direct action against Iran needs to happen, it is completely unavoidable.

    North Korea sending a small number of troops to Russia will have little impact, but we need to step up and signal now about this before it gets out of hand. Better weapons, more numbers, and unleashed strikes anywhere Nk is deployed in Russia.

    Suprisingly China is backing away from this conflict.

  12. I honestly wonder sometimes why not trainload after trainload of American and European weapons is rolling across the Ukrainian border 24/7. Those 100 billion EUR Germany plans to invest in their military for example: Better to spend it all on weapons for Ukraine. Not providing long-range weapons to cripple the Russian war economy – are you kidding me!? Europe is defended in Ukraine today, the time to act accordingly is long past.

  13. It’s so fucked that Israel gets unlimited funds to commit atrocities and Ukraine is struggling to survive and are literally fighting a huge chunk of the world’s two main enemies.

  14. I’m just curious about all the redditors here warmongering and complaining about all the western countries and nato not doing enough. How come instead of being here complaining how come y’all don’t go and fill those trenches instead?

  15. It’s amazing how little most leaders care about Ukraine when it is by far the most consequential event currently occurring. 

  16. Next week NK be sending 20k soldiers, they have manpower in the millions, and most will fight to feed their families, it be too late to stop it by that time.

  17. The AK-47 was developed to be mass produced and very easy operation to train conscripts with. Its not necessarily a long range accuracy weapon, put it puts rounds downrange accurately enough within 2-300 yards, and a squad or platoon of soldiers can put a lot of lead in the air to gain fire superiority.

    An AK-47 is still extremely dangerous and will still kill you no matter how inept an untrained soldier is

  18. to be honest it feels like “allies” are just using Ukraine to drain Russia & allies

    think about it – they give just enough support so Ukraine would not lose, but not enough so it would win

  19. The West is sleeping. I‘m sure they‘ll say „we are deeply concerned“ and won’t do shit as soon as Russia invades the next European country.

  20. The actual response (good or bad depending on the president) will come after the us election.

  21. This reeks of Germany getting involved in the Spanish civil war. Training for when they decide to eventually assault South Korea

  22. Could it be that most of the western world is on hold until the US election is over? If Trump wins its gonna be every man for themselves I reckon?

  23. If things continue like they are with continuous 0 reaction, it’s going to lead to Ukrainian collapse way sooner that you expect

  24. I hope South Korea is at least offering their special forces to Ukraine to get real world experience.

  25. Russia is suffering 1000 casualties a day. North Korea sent 8 days worth of troops.

  26. Boy are they gonna be embarrassed when the UN writes a letter about how displeased they are. Sometimes, decisive actions by the brave UN councils take time and careful editing to properly convey how disgruntled they have become.

    /s

  27. Europe and political grand standing from their ivory towers while they wait for the US, name a more iconic duo

  28. It’s 6 days to an election that will determine the course of the war. Do. fucking. nothing. Win and then donkey stomp NK into paste after.

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