Dr. Shadi Bartsch, a classics professor at the University of Chicago – and author of several books about ancient Rome – called it “total Hollywood bullshit.”
“I don’t think Romans knew what a shark was,” she said, although adding that naval battles were held in the arena.
Yes, but counterpoint, gladiators fighting sharks in the Colosseum.
Umm no shit it’s not a documentary and no one thinks it is.
I just want a good story and entertaining action. I don’t think Top Gun Maverick is a realistic portrayal of the Air Force and I don’t care I’m enjoying the ride. Give me some intense battles and characters I actually care about
Who cares, I want to be entertained. If I wanted a historical documentary, I’d watch Game of Thrones.
Nobody is seeing gladiator 2 for a history lesson
A non-story. Fictional movies are often not totally historically accurate.
… Are you not entertained?
Why, no gay sex?
It’s not like the first Gladiator was some beacon of historical accuracy lmao. Sure Marcus Aurelius and Commodus were real people, but the vast majority of the events in that film didn’t actually happen.
So? I swear Cinema Sins really spoiled people like this into trying to ruin movies. Its a story, a timeless thing people need, fables, myths and legends. If it was a documentary then you would be making a point, but its not so wtf are you talking about
So was the original.
I read the article, but I don’t understand why she thinks Romans wouldn’t know what a shark was. The Mediterranean has like 40 different species of sharks, including basking sharks.
next you’re going to tell me that braveheart is not historically accurate…
A movie where William Wallace sneaks into a castle on a horse won best picture.
We are supposed to think, on the back of a horse, he somehow sneaks through a wall without any guards seeing him. That nobody notices him clopping through the hallways of the castle, on the back of a horse.
And he goes up and down stairs, on this horse, without anybody noticing him.
Then he goes up a narrow tower stairway. Then, somehow, gets off the horse, leaving it in a narrow stairway, opens the door, gets back on the horse, rides it into a room, gets back off the horse, closes the door, gets back in the horse, and only then does the guy in the bed wake up.
We then see that William Wallace is not armed with a knife, spear, or even a crossbow.
But with a ball and chain, probably the noisiest weapon of that era to carry around.
He kills the guy, and then flies away through the window on his horse.
That scene, which isn’t even necessary, and it’s not even the most egregious historical innacruacy.
But a “historical” movie where a man is flying around on a ninja horse won best picture.
There is nothing Gladiator 2 can do wrong at this point.
Yeah I got that from Denzel saying MY MAN, rap music and rhino riding in the trailer
Yeah well it’s not a PBS documentary. I’m not going to be educated, I’m going to be entertained
Who cares? No one thinks this is a documentary
But the first one was so accurate /s
Wait until the historian hears about an island full of dinosaurs that we created from a mosquito’s blood!!
What the hell is a “top”historian? Is there a ranking system I’m unaware of?
Also, the first one was not based on history.
No one thinks it’s a documentary.
No shit and it’s not trying to be
It’s a Hollywood movie, therefore it will likely be a fantasy so who gives a shit? This is entertainment, not a history lesson
Ya that’s what I want
There are history books for that, mr. Historian. This is a movie
So was the first one and it was still an awesome movie.
Of course it is, it’s Hollywood. And I am still looking forward to it
And gladiator was a documentary???
So, just like the first one?
So was the first one tho
Yes, it’s a movie, we know
>”I don’t think Romans knew what a shark was”
This is a wild claim from an historian. Pliny wrote about them.
Gladiator 2 says historian can go read a book if he wants history lesson.
Yes, but is it *entertainment?*
Plus, you might as well add in pretty much every space or horror film if that’s how a film is judged.
Kick rocks nerd
Was anyone expecting anything different?
And the first one wasn’t?
Wait till they hear about Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter…
Yes, but ARE YOU ENTERTAINED?
I tend to like Hollywood bullshit.
Tbh I’m surprised that Romans didn’t know about sharks but googled it and apparently the first descriptions of them appear in 1776.
Obviously other civilizations knew about them (can you imagine Polynesians not?) but I really thought they’d been known in the Western tradition for as long as there’s been one.
Do you like gladiator movies, Billy?
Well duh its not a fuckin documentary.
“Gladiator 2: Zombie Warrior” My hit screenplay
Oh for goodness sake. It’s a Gladiator film made in Hollywood. Of course it’s fantasy . That’s what they do in movies.
was that not the entire fucking point lmao?
It’s fun swords and sandals shit. Any given Sunday was not accurate either, but we don’t need pearl clutching football analysis.
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A feature by [*The Hollywood Reporter*](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/gladiator-ii-fact-fiction-ai-1236047785/) published today (October 30) makes a bid to separate the historical accuracies of the upcoming epic from its wilder sequences – like the use of sharks in a flooded Colosseum, which had already garnered praise (and disbelief) from viewers [upon its reveal in the film’s trailer](https://www.nme.com/news/film/watch-paul-mescal-in-thrilling-new-trailer-for-gladiator-ii-3773164).
Dr. Shadi Bartsch, a classics professor at the University of Chicago – and author of several books about ancient Rome – called it “total Hollywood bullshit.”
“I don’t think Romans knew what a shark was,” she said, although adding that naval battles were held in the arena.
Yes, but counterpoint, gladiators fighting sharks in the Colosseum.
Umm no shit it’s not a documentary and no one thinks it is.
I just want a good story and entertaining action. I don’t think Top Gun Maverick is a realistic portrayal of the Air Force and I don’t care I’m enjoying the ride. Give me some intense battles and characters I actually care about
Who cares, I want to be entertained. If I wanted a historical documentary, I’d watch Game of Thrones.
Nobody is seeing gladiator 2 for a history lesson
A non-story. Fictional movies are often not totally historically accurate.
… Are you not entertained?
Why, no gay sex?
It’s not like the first Gladiator was some beacon of historical accuracy lmao. Sure Marcus Aurelius and Commodus were real people, but the vast majority of the events in that film didn’t actually happen.
So? I swear Cinema Sins really spoiled people like this into trying to ruin movies. Its a story, a timeless thing people need, fables, myths and legends. If it was a documentary then you would be making a point, but its not so wtf are you talking about
So was the original.
I read the article, but I don’t understand why she thinks Romans wouldn’t know what a shark was. The Mediterranean has like 40 different species of sharks, including basking sharks.
next you’re going to tell me that braveheart is not historically accurate…
[https://youtu.be/ojBwASARAzo?si=11nFoQr9PiqGo736](https://youtu.be/ojBwASARAzo?si=11nFoQr9PiqGo736)
A movie where William Wallace sneaks into a castle on a horse won best picture.
We are supposed to think, on the back of a horse, he somehow sneaks through a wall without any guards seeing him. That nobody notices him clopping through the hallways of the castle, on the back of a horse.
And he goes up and down stairs, on this horse, without anybody noticing him.
Then he goes up a narrow tower stairway. Then, somehow, gets off the horse, leaving it in a narrow stairway, opens the door, gets back on the horse, rides it into a room, gets back off the horse, closes the door, gets back in the horse, and only then does the guy in the bed wake up.
We then see that William Wallace is not armed with a knife, spear, or even a crossbow.
But with a ball and chain, probably the noisiest weapon of that era to carry around.
He kills the guy, and then flies away through the window on his horse.
That scene, which isn’t even necessary, and it’s not even the most egregious historical innacruacy.
But a “historical” movie where a man is flying around on a ninja horse won best picture.
There is nothing Gladiator 2 can do wrong at this point.
Yeah I got that from Denzel saying MY MAN, rap music and rhino riding in the trailer
Yeah well it’s not a PBS documentary. I’m not going to be educated, I’m going to be entertained
Who cares? No one thinks this is a documentary
But the first one was so accurate /s
Wait until the historian hears about an island full of dinosaurs that we created from a mosquito’s blood!!
What the hell is a “top”historian? Is there a ranking system I’m unaware of?
Also, the first one was not based on history.
No one thinks it’s a documentary.
No shit and it’s not trying to be
It’s a Hollywood movie, therefore it will likely be a fantasy so who gives a shit? This is entertainment, not a history lesson
Ya that’s what I want
There are history books for that, mr. Historian. This is a movie
So was the first one and it was still an awesome movie.
Of course it is, it’s Hollywood. And I am still looking forward to it
And gladiator was a documentary???
So, just like the first one?
So was the first one tho
Yes, it’s a movie, we know
>”I don’t think Romans knew what a shark was”
This is a wild claim from an historian. Pliny wrote about them.
Gladiator 2 says historian can go read a book if he wants history lesson.
Yes, but is it *entertainment?*
Plus, you might as well add in pretty much every space or horror film if that’s how a film is judged.
Kick rocks nerd
Was anyone expecting anything different?
And the first one wasn’t?
Wait till they hear about Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter…
Yes, but ARE YOU ENTERTAINED?
I tend to like Hollywood bullshit.
Tbh I’m surprised that Romans didn’t know about sharks but googled it and apparently the first descriptions of them appear in 1776.
Obviously other civilizations knew about them (can you imagine Polynesians not?) but I really thought they’d been known in the Western tradition for as long as there’s been one.
Do you like gladiator movies, Billy?
Well duh its not a fuckin documentary.
“Gladiator 2: Zombie Warrior” My hit screenplay
Oh for goodness sake.
It’s a Gladiator film made in Hollywood.
Of course it’s fantasy .
That’s what they do in movies.
was that not the entire fucking point lmao?
It’s fun swords and sandals shit. Any given Sunday was not accurate either, but we don’t need pearl clutching football analysis.
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