I’ve heard that many of Musk’s paid canvassers aren’t actually doing anything but collecting money from him. Many of them might be deliberate moles, or people who found a way to make an easy buck.
>In Michigan, some canvassers funded by America PAC were reportedly given unrealistically high expectations, under extremely poor working conditions. They claimed that they were threatened financially if they performed poorly.
Why don’t people want to work? I just don’t understand what the problem is?
Edit: Well, we’ve established who they’re going to blame if Trump loses. Obviously they’re not going to blame Trump.
>Trump’s allies have practically [begged](https://newrepublic.com/post/187210/donald-trump-elon-musk-pac-voter-registration) the former president to ditch Musk, and his malfunctioning canvassing efforts, as conservative activists and leaders in battleground states reported that they’ve seen little return from the America PAC’s efforts.
Probably a bit late now.
That’s a shame…
Leon is a big fan of failing fast & iterating, silicon valley startup paradigms. It doesn’t translate well when you have an election only every 4 years, maybe he’ll finally get it right by around 2044 or 2048.
You guys sat and watched him fuck up Twitter and thought, “This is the guy we should be trusting our data with”? You reap what you sow.
I like to imagine a world where this is all a high level troll by Musk to actually damage Trump in an attempt to keep Tesla from tanking and win back the customers who actually buy those cars.
In reality, he’s a racist, misogynistic and hateful piece of shit just like the rest of the MAGA cult hoping that Trump will repay him with government contracts.
Still, it’s nice to imagine.
I live in a county in PA that will probably decide the state, and maybe the election. I am a registered independent.
Anyway 4 canvassers stopped by my house looking for me. 4 were for Harris and 0 were for Trump.
Not sure if this is indicative of the other states or not, or whether canvassers actually work to change votes.
Glad to see that yet again the government isn’t a big business and you can’t treat them as the same beast. You need genuine buy in and support for things to happen. More importantly for Leon, the things that the government needs to collect taxes for aren’t necessarily profitable… they’re there for the exchange of the social contract. Even then you can argue that many of these things are profitable… there’s just no way to define the profitability in a short term.
I.E the military may not appear to be “profitable” but the alternative is that we defend ourselves against Chinese drones and stealth fighters with small arms wielding militias if not
Musk is a moron. How did you think he would do anything but fuck it up?
I love this for them.
Dump just sees musk’s money, that’s all he cares about.
That’s the least of their hells that are breaking loose. Their entire infernal dam is crumbling and about to give way. They’re fucking toast and it’s glorious.
It’s almost like Leon who had zero politically experience whatsoever has no idea what the fuck he’s doing.
Shocking.
Anecdotally this tracks. Democratic canvassers who’ve been by my house are polite, engaged, and want to discuss the election. And if I say I don’t want to talk about it, they wish me well and leave.
The one conservative canvasser was a guy on a bike. He asked if I’d already voted, asked if I wanted literature on the candidate, entered something into an app on his phone and fucked off. Absolutely no enthusiasm for the guy he’s supposed to be representing whatever.
~~That’s the problem with paid canvassers vs volunteer ones. The paid ones don’t give a shit about the candidate they’re representing and it shows.~~
EDIT: I’ve been corrected. The amount of canvassing required for a successful campaign is far too much for volunteers to handle alone. Paying active and engaged canvassers is necessary as it allows them to canvas full time.
So I’ll amend my initial statement to say that in my own very limited and local experience this election, the Democrats are running a solid ground game with quality canvassers, whether they are paid or volunteer. While the only Republican that showed up at my door didn’t seem to care at all. Which mirrors larger stories, like the OP, about the dysfunctional operation Leon is running.
Trusting Elon Musk and Charlie Kirk to run your operation was always a total mistake.
> The PAC has reportedly received a large quantity of suspicious data from its canvassers, following reports that some had learned how to spoof their location to create the impression that they’d visited voters’ homes.
Grifters grifting their grifters.
FYI, this is the same amount of effort and taxpayer-funded efficiency Trump and his team will put into governing… And rampant incompetence/corruption is honestly a best case scenario vs the outright evil they will bring to anything they really want to focus on.
Harris should be winning this election 538-0. The fact that it’s a coin flip is insanity.
Nothing that happens next week would make me nearly as happy as finding out that Elon Musk was the reason Donald Trump lost the election.
Donald Trump’s election schemes are imploding and I am here for it.
I think Trump is gonna lose, guys.
“Elon is costing us the election”
“Tony Hinchcliffe is costing us the election”
“Women being able to vote is costing us the election”
While I don’t have a crystal ball to see the outcome next week, I do find it amusing that they’re already fighting over who to blame the most for losing.
I canvassed for Harris in Wisconsin. For free.
Elon is quite possibly the dumbest rich man in existence.
The smarter ones basically exist in obscurity.
If only he would follow in their footsteps.
I remember when him firing Manafort and putting Bannon and Kellyanne in charge was “spiraling.” It was when my daughters were babies. Yet – here we are.
Journalists – stop with access. Kids – vote for the only candidate not actively trying to kill women in need of an OB/gyn. The rest of you – what the actual fuck.
This is quite possibly the worst campaign in history, and the worse final week of a campaign ever…. And he has not lost any support. Fucking insane.
>The PAC has reportedly received a large quantity of suspicious data from its canvassers, following reports that some had learned how to spoof their location to create the impression that they’d visited voters’ homes.
LOL!
>One canvasser even said they were surprised to learn that they were canvassing on behalf of Trump.
ROTFL!
I’m most disappointed that I have to say it, but just because a boy likes cars and shapeships, it doesn’t make him a genius.
Elon really strikes me as the sort of manager who forbids teams from accurate story points and capacity estimation to make his burn down chart look good.
In other words, like so much of the business world, if you structure your business around performance metrics rather than results, you’ll get a team optimized to deliver performance metrics results, not products.
This is a snapshot of what’s wrong in most software development today.
Lmao. They hired a bunch of DoorDash drivers looking for an extra gig then were surprised when they found a way to game the system. Enjoy your bunk ass data, dumbasses.
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I’ve heard that many of Musk’s paid canvassers aren’t actually doing anything but collecting money from him. Many of them might be deliberate moles, or people who found a way to make an easy buck.
>In Michigan, some canvassers funded by America PAC were reportedly given unrealistically high expectations, under extremely poor working conditions. They claimed that they were threatened financially if they performed poorly.
Why don’t people want to work? I just don’t understand what the problem is?
Edit: Well, we’ve established who they’re going to blame if Trump loses. Obviously they’re not going to blame Trump.
>Trump’s allies have practically [begged](https://newrepublic.com/post/187210/donald-trump-elon-musk-pac-voter-registration) the former president to ditch Musk, and his malfunctioning canvassing efforts, as conservative activists and leaders in battleground states reported that they’ve seen little return from the America PAC’s efforts.
Probably a bit late now.
That’s a shame…
Leon is a big fan of failing fast & iterating, silicon valley startup paradigms. It doesn’t translate well when you have an election only every 4 years, maybe he’ll finally get it right by around 2044 or 2048.
You guys sat and watched him fuck up Twitter and thought, “This is the guy we should be trusting our data with”? You reap what you sow.
I like to imagine a world where this is all a high level troll by Musk to actually damage Trump in an attempt to keep Tesla from tanking and win back the customers who actually buy those cars.
In reality, he’s a racist, misogynistic and hateful piece of shit just like the rest of the MAGA cult hoping that Trump will repay him with government contracts.
Still, it’s nice to imagine.
I live in a county in PA that will probably decide the state, and maybe the election. I am a registered independent.
Anyway 4 canvassers stopped by my house looking for me. 4 were for Harris and 0 were for Trump.
Not sure if this is indicative of the other states or not, or whether canvassers actually work to change votes.
Glad to see that yet again the government isn’t a big business and you can’t treat them as the same beast. You need genuine buy in and support for things to happen. More importantly for Leon, the things that the government needs to collect taxes for aren’t necessarily profitable… they’re there for the exchange of the social contract. Even then you can argue that many of these things are profitable… there’s just no way to define the profitability in a short term.
I.E the military may not appear to be “profitable” but the alternative is that we defend ourselves against Chinese drones and stealth fighters with small arms wielding militias if not
Musk is a moron. How did you think he would do anything but fuck it up?
I love this for them.
Dump just sees musk’s money, that’s all he cares about.
That’s the least of their hells that are breaking loose. Their entire infernal dam is crumbling and about to give way. They’re fucking toast and it’s glorious.
It’s almost like Leon who had zero politically experience whatsoever has no idea what the fuck he’s doing.
Shocking.
Anecdotally this tracks. Democratic canvassers who’ve been by my house are polite, engaged, and want to discuss the election. And if I say I don’t want to talk about it, they wish me well and leave.
The one conservative canvasser was a guy on a bike. He asked if I’d already voted, asked if I wanted literature on the candidate, entered something into an app on his phone and fucked off. Absolutely no enthusiasm for the guy he’s supposed to be representing whatever.
~~That’s the problem with paid canvassers vs volunteer ones. The paid ones don’t give a shit about the candidate they’re representing and it shows.~~
EDIT: I’ve been corrected. The amount of canvassing required for a successful campaign is far too much for volunteers to handle alone. Paying active and engaged canvassers is necessary as it allows them to canvas full time.
So I’ll amend my initial statement to say that in my own very limited and local experience this election, the Democrats are running a solid ground game with quality canvassers, whether they are paid or volunteer. While the only Republican that showed up at my door didn’t seem to care at all. Which mirrors larger stories, like the OP, about the dysfunctional operation Leon is running.
Trusting Elon Musk and Charlie Kirk to run your operation was always a total mistake.
> The PAC has reportedly received a large quantity of suspicious data from its canvassers, following reports that some had learned how to spoof their location to create the impression that they’d visited voters’ homes.
Grifters grifting their grifters.
FYI, this is the same amount of effort and taxpayer-funded efficiency Trump and his team will put into governing… And rampant incompetence/corruption is honestly a best case scenario vs the outright evil they will bring to anything they really want to focus on.
Harris should be winning this election 538-0. The fact that it’s a coin flip is insanity.
Nothing that happens next week would make me nearly as happy as finding out that Elon Musk was the reason Donald Trump lost the election.
Donald Trump’s election schemes are imploding and I am here for it.
I think Trump is gonna lose, guys.
“Elon is costing us the election”
“Tony Hinchcliffe is costing us the election”
“Women being able to vote is costing us the election”
While I don’t have a crystal ball to see the outcome next week, I do find it amusing that they’re already fighting over who to blame the most for losing.
I canvassed for Harris in Wisconsin. For free.
Elon is quite possibly the dumbest rich man in existence.
The smarter ones basically exist in obscurity.
If only he would follow in their footsteps.
I remember when him firing Manafort and putting Bannon and Kellyanne in charge was “spiraling.” It was when my daughters were babies. Yet – here we are.
Journalists – stop with access. Kids – vote for the only candidate not actively trying to kill women in need of an OB/gyn. The rest of you – what the actual fuck.
This is quite possibly the worst campaign in history, and the worse final week of a campaign ever…. And he has not lost any support. Fucking insane.
>The PAC has reportedly received a large quantity of suspicious data from its canvassers, following reports that some had learned how to spoof their location to create the impression that they’d visited voters’ homes.
LOL!
>One canvasser even said they were surprised to learn that they were canvassing on behalf of Trump.
ROTFL!
I’m most disappointed that I have to say it, but just because a boy likes cars and shapeships, it doesn’t make him a genius.
Elon really strikes me as the sort of manager who forbids teams from accurate story points and capacity estimation to make his burn down chart look good.
In other words, like so much of the business world, if you structure your business around performance metrics rather than results, you’ll get a team optimized to deliver performance metrics results, not products.
This is a snapshot of what’s wrong in most software development today.
Lmao. They hired a bunch of DoorDash drivers looking for an extra gig then were surprised when they found a way to game the system. Enjoy your bunk ass data, dumbasses.
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