Is this where you can drive into it, but not through it?
Do they still allow taxis and ubers? Or do they allow them but charge them more?
A big problem in London is that minicabs have almost doubled in a decade, and carless people living centrally but taking lots of ubers are worse for coongestion and pollution than a family of 4 using their car only to go to grandma’s in the countryside at weekends.
Great idea: – Limits to public transport, deliveries, maintenance and emergency services and essential modes (eg blue badge vehicles) – Strongly encourages foot and cycle travel; – Better air quality – Improved noise environment – Opportunities for enhanced public open spaces – Renewal of new brownfield land opportunities for commercial or housing.
Isn’t that what LEZ, ULEZ and Congestion zones are for? How many more zones do we need
They made Soho car free in Covid, it was so nice and I never understood why they didn’t keep it.
To be honest it’s now so hard to drive jn London that I’m deferring to public transport . Between the roadworks that delay pretty much every journey and the horrific state of the A40 it’s the same journey time on a train . Which is probably what they wanted !
The direction of travel is pretty clear: in 20 years private cars will be banned from city centers.
Why don’t we make public transport cheaper, better and faster first.
It really does need to. It’s obvious..
As long as public transport is committed to being disability friendly then I’d so agree with this ! The Lizzie line was a great step forward for accessible transport in london but it’s still super difficult to get around without relying on cars
It’s annoying that this country is so against 15 minute cities thanks a to small number of conspiracy nuts
i work in central london, there is no need to further limit traffic. ulez + congestion charge means no one comes into central london unless they have a good reason. even if u need an uber or a bus, it rarely takes a lot of time to get out of central london, the real traffic hits when u get to the A roads that feed in and out of the area.
Wasn’t that the idea of the Congestion Charge?
The Reform/conspiracy lot would lose their collective minds
No we don’t
London has a traffic congestion that is in no way comparable to the one in Paris. It is already very good in London. Better things to be doing atm instead of shit like this.
Yes it does.
Have been to Ghent and can confirm that is really makes the city centre a great place to hang out.
Somethin similar is enforced in Krakow, Poland. Again, because of the low traffic, it is a great place to wander around.
It is kinda like the congestion zone with added features?
How many people live in that area
Main issue is that relatively ordinary people live in the congestion charge zone. Pedestrianised streets with more expansion for green spaces would be nice, but Zone 1 is literally made up of several villages, where standard car use still has utility. More one way roads and restricted routes would be useful either way
I mean, I’d support full pedestrianisation of central London, with the exception of buses and cabs. I think that would make it far more pleasant
Has anyone had a look at the area the CC covers? It’s minuscule. Barely one end of Euston Road to the other. And residents get a 90% discount!
This has already happened unless they are limiting it more. Cycling round the centre of Paris and you overtake limos and everyone because they have replaced automobile lanes with cycle lanes
They’ve already done this with all the LTNs and school streets.
Whilst I would definitely welcome more pedestrianisation in London, I actually don’t think *traffic* is bad in central London at all.
It seems like it’s mostly now buses, taxes and vans. Surely there are very few private cars being used in the centre?
So I think really now the question is about how you pedestrianise as much of the centre as possible while maintaining bus use, some taxi use (this is important for the disabled and the elderly particularly) and allowing businesses to function.
I remember going to Paris and wanting to visit the Arc de Triomphe. I was terribly disturbed by the huge traffic circle around it, which had no crosswalks, only an unceasing ring of automobiles. Fortunately the city had built tunnels beneath the circle, so it was actually possible to get to the monument.
I would dearly love to see a steep reduction in the amount of automobiles in that awful traffic circle.
They’ve already done it. ULEZ and LTNs. Come on OP. 🤦
So basically, the congestion charge zone in London.
We had this in Cambridge for about a decade. It was enforced by rising bollards at key points around the centre’s perimeter. Everything was fine until the times when they stopped working and there were reports of ambulances not being able to get into the centre when needed, the cost of maintenance/repairs, etc.
Because of that most of the barriers have been scrapped now and they just rely on number plate recognition cameras plus road signage instead… with the obligatory fines. Sound familiar?
So, increase the traffic charge in central London
What London needs is a ☢️ strike.
The thing about cities in Europe, that people always miss with posts like this, is that you don’t have to drive for over an hour at 20mph through the suburbs, in order to leave the city.
It’s all fine to ban cars for the small streets in the center if there are high speed highways to get in and out.
Guys, London already has this and it’s way better enforced: the congestion zone. Paris had only limited some traffic to these areas and they have no ANPR to enforce it. There are loads of exemptions. I’m driving here today and it really doesn’t seem any different than last week. And don’t get me started on how awful public transport is here either…
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Is this where you can drive into it, but not through it?
Do they still allow taxis and ubers? Or do they allow them but charge them more?
A big problem in London is that minicabs have almost doubled in a decade, and carless people living centrally but taking lots of ubers are worse for coongestion and pollution than a family of 4 using their car only to go to grandma’s in the countryside at weekends.
Great idea:
– Limits to public transport, deliveries, maintenance and emergency services and essential modes (eg blue badge vehicles)
– Strongly encourages foot and cycle travel;
– Better air quality
– Improved noise environment
– Opportunities for enhanced public open spaces
– Renewal of new brownfield land opportunities for commercial or housing.
Isn’t that what LEZ, ULEZ and Congestion zones are for? How many more zones do we need
They made Soho car free in Covid, it was so nice and I never understood why they didn’t keep it.
To be honest it’s now so hard to drive jn London that I’m deferring to public transport . Between the roadworks that delay pretty much every journey and the horrific state of the A40 it’s the same journey time on a train . Which is probably what they wanted !
The direction of travel is pretty clear: in 20 years private cars will be banned from city centers.
Why don’t we make public transport cheaper, better and faster first.
It really does need to. It’s obvious..
As long as public transport is committed to being disability friendly then I’d so agree with this ! The Lizzie line was a great step forward for accessible transport in london but it’s still super difficult to get around without relying on cars
It’s annoying that this country is so against 15 minute cities thanks a to small number of conspiracy nuts
i work in central london, there is no need to further limit traffic. ulez + congestion charge means no one comes into central london unless they have a good reason. even if u need an uber or a bus, it rarely takes a lot of time to get out of central london, the real traffic hits when u get to the A roads that feed in and out of the area.
Wasn’t that the idea of the Congestion Charge?
The Reform/conspiracy lot would lose their collective minds
No we don’t
London has a traffic congestion that is in no way comparable to the one in Paris. It is already very good in London. Better things to be doing atm instead of shit like this.
Yes it does.
Have been to Ghent and can confirm that is really makes the city centre a great place to hang out.
Somethin similar is enforced in Krakow, Poland. Again, because of the low traffic, it is a great place to wander around.
It is kinda like the congestion zone with added features?
How many people live in that area
Main issue is that relatively ordinary people live in the congestion charge zone. Pedestrianised streets with more expansion for green spaces would be nice, but Zone 1 is literally made up of several villages, where standard car use still has utility. More one way roads and restricted routes would be useful either way
I mean, I’d support full pedestrianisation of central London, with the exception of buses and cabs. I think that would make it far more pleasant
Has anyone had a look at the area the CC covers? It’s minuscule. Barely one end of Euston Road to the other. And residents get a 90% discount!
[The polling on this shows that widespread pedestrianisation of central London has very strong backing from the public.](https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/majority-of-londoners-agree-most-streets-in-central-london-should-be-pedestrian-only/)
This has already happened unless they are limiting it more. Cycling round the centre of Paris and you overtake limos and everyone because they have replaced automobile lanes with cycle lanes
They’ve already done this with all the LTNs and school streets.
Whilst I would definitely welcome more pedestrianisation in London, I actually don’t think *traffic* is bad in central London at all.
It seems like it’s mostly now buses, taxes and vans. Surely there are very few private cars being used in the centre?
So I think really now the question is about how you pedestrianise as much of the centre as possible while maintaining bus use, some taxi use (this is important for the disabled and the elderly particularly) and allowing businesses to function.
I remember going to Paris and wanting to visit the Arc de Triomphe. I was terribly disturbed by the huge traffic circle around it, which had no crosswalks, only an unceasing ring of automobiles. Fortunately the city had built tunnels beneath the circle, so it was actually possible to get to the monument.
I would dearly love to see a steep reduction in the amount of automobiles in that awful traffic circle.
They’ve already done it. ULEZ and LTNs. Come on OP. 🤦
So basically, the congestion charge zone in London.
We had this in Cambridge for about a decade. It was enforced by rising bollards at key points around the centre’s perimeter. Everything was fine until the times when they stopped working and there were reports of ambulances not being able to get into the centre when needed, the cost of maintenance/repairs, etc.
Because of that most of the barriers have been scrapped now and they just rely on number plate recognition cameras plus road signage instead… with the obligatory fines. Sound familiar?
So, increase the traffic charge in central London
What London needs is a ☢️ strike.
The thing about cities in Europe, that people always miss with posts like this, is that you don’t have to drive for over an hour at 20mph through the suburbs, in order to leave the city.
It’s all fine to ban cars for the small streets in the center if there are high speed highways to get in and out.
Guys, London already has this and it’s way better enforced: the congestion zone. Paris had only limited some traffic to these areas and they have no ANPR to enforce it. There are loads of exemptions. I’m driving here today and it really doesn’t seem any different than last week. And don’t get me started on how awful public transport is here either…
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