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Former Post Office investigator insists cleared Horizon IT victim was guilty

  • January 24, 2024



Former Post Office investigator insists cleared Horizon IT victim was guilty

The the 78 documents that we sent you the 350 odd Pages uh you don’t refer to any of them in your witness statement apart from the transcript of Mr William km’s interview do you that’s correct soor that can come down from the screen now and why was

That why did you pick Mr K’s interview as the one document that you did refer to well this inquiry is about uh the degree of fairness that was applied to postmasters during the course of Investigations and the subsequent prosecution of them uh I was reminding myself what had been said during that

Interview and it was the one thing that I believe that I had a major part in because I was the lead investigator in that interview so therefore uh I thought it was important to refresh myself when you made the witness statement did you think that Mr km

Continue to be guilty of the crime of embezzlement this wit a statement here today yeah uh yes I did and does that remain your view uh I’ve sub subsequently been advised that the verdict has been uh reversed so uh he is now not guilty of the the

Offense I’m talking about in your mind in my mind I still think that Mr qum had a a a a role to play in the loss of the money that’s a different an answer to a different question the question would be did Mr G have a role to play in the

Events the question I in fact asked was um do you think you remain of the view that he’s guilty of the crime yes I do despite the verdict of the high court of justiciary in Scotland yes was that a amongst the reasons that um you didn’t regard this inquiry as a priority

No you haven’t said that to any of the solicitors in the inquiry before Mr quam was guilty I don’t know why you’re asking me questions about this if I said that then that would be my view at that time yes

A former Post Office investigator has maintained that a branch owner-operator who had his conviction for embezzlement overturned last year was guilty.
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Raymond Grant, an investigator involved in the prosecution of the post office operator William Quarm who died in 2012 not knowing he would eventually be cleared years later, had to be legally forced to appear to give testimony at the public inquiry into the Horizon IT scandal. Jason Beer KC, lead counsel to the inquiry, asked Grant whether he believed Quarm, a father of five, was guilty even though his conviction was overturned by the Scottish high court last year. “Yes, I do,” Grant said.

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22 comments

  7. People need to realize that the ruling class think every common person is a thief, because they themselves steal from the public all the time. Honesty, ethis and human decency mean nothing to these ghouls.

  8. Some of these people took their own lives and this person had to be compelled to attend the enquiry as he thought carol singing was more important. The arrogance is staggering!!!!

  10. Well done you , you join the list of the most hated men in this whole inquiry .
    It was clear he did not want to participate, he resented even being questioned , and for him the whole thing is beneath him . 😮

  11. Another bent investigating officer.The more you see of these plebs,the more you feel for the innocent people they harassed.However, justice is coming and history will show people like this for what they are and for what they did.Unforgiveable.

  17. There has been very little released on the precise nature of the Horizon errors. If the errors were random then 600+ postmasters would have received windfall profits. Have these been investigated and clawed back? Unlikely as that would have amounted to an admission of the errors leading to the losses.

  20. It would appear that there was an automatic presumption of guilt by the PO investigators, and a complete lack of any empathy. So far I have not seen one demonstrating a naturally enquiring mind. Training and selection of these personnel appears to have been totally inadequate. How convenient for the upper management. Has anyone at the PO got a sense of guilt? if so resign now!

  21. Oh..Dear–despite ALL the evidence now revealed..this individual still believes the poor man was guilty—no morsel of remorse/pity/compassion–shame on him!!

  22. Avoiding loss of face and pride are two significant factors as why this has gone on so long. Not being prepared early doors to admit something dreadful was happening and, being prepared to investigate impartially. Believing hundreds of decent, up standing and heavily vetted people had gone feral rather than using integrity, honesty and fairness. Sadly too familiar.

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