/uj His popularity and that of Labour in general is less important, I think, than economic and social stability
/rj “We’ll regain trust gradually, but not before we vote on the National Service (for the over 65s) Bill and debate legislature for the enforced daily serving of tinned sprouts. These are tough decisions and yes, I understand that I’m lucky to be able to heat my yurt which is made from puppy skins”
The fact she even felt compelled to say this so early on in his Premiership is telling.
Haha wasn’t it a few days ago that Starmer had to say he’s in control?? Why are they saying stuff like this? They sound like they are a government on their last legs, not a newly elected one
tbh we’ll probs see another cameron situation in 2015,
growing dissatisfaction with the government, starting early on with austerity measures and student tuition fees,
but with the help from lib dems being destroyed and snp-lab coalition being likely, he edged thru to a maj from a minority position,
alot can happen but i feel for many moderate voters unless the tories have turned things around massively or reform somehow make themseleves appealing to the electorate beyond their base, many seats will stay lab, a lot less probably but likely a healthy maj
I won’t be voting Labour again, or Conservative either. This country is completely doomed. Incompetent leadership through and through.
People bounce back. Rolf Harris. Dennis Hopper. There are others.
He’s never been popular to begin with, bounce back from what lol
Democracy is nothing but Marketing for the Global Elites: The Bilderbergers.
Regardless of the rights or wrongs, the optics of taking money away from pensioners – in the minds of most folk pensioners are old grannies with a one bar electric fire – whilst at the same time having a 6 digit salary and a grace and favour mansion in the centre of London but getting tens of thousands of pounds in clothes, holidays, executive boxes, are horrendous.
The Tory leadership were vile, and Starmer trumpeted loudly about them accepting favours, helicopter rides and the rest whilst the country starved. Now they’re wiped away, he is starting to appear like an entitled hypocrite.
“People were so tolerant of the tories being corrupt for so long, I can’t see them being mad about the tories lite being corrupt too”. If Angela Rayner was honest.
Good luck. What’s the plan, tax everything and everything in the first year, continue fiscal drag until the year before election day and then suddenly say they’re the party committed to lowering taxes on working people in efforts to get re-elected? The Tories tries that and it didn’t work.
I think it’s time we replace both of these parties as they are clearly out of touch with voters. Reform UK is the natural alternative to the Tories, but who do the left have? The Lib Dems would likely be more of the same and the Greens would be a disaster. Time to change the system to PR I think.
I voted Labour this year with gritted teeth. Honestly, I voted because the Tories f*cked sh*t up so much I felt obliged.
Never again. I get the “cant fix it overnight” bullsh*t, but it’s time for both Labour and Tories to crash and burn into irrelevance. Neither group has what it takes to truly address and fix the issues we face.
All depends with the October budget and how they try and fix the NHS as well as matters that the nation actually care about.
Remember how few people actually voted for him in the first place.
That said, any new government was going to have to come in and make some difficult choices. I always suspected he’d have a dip early on. Then, in theory, you should be able to show your progress as it gets to election time. Not within 12 weeks.
When he came in, all boring, down to business, like the civil servant he should be, I honestly was glad, felt like we had someone finally there to do some actual work, but all this gifting stuff has wiped any notion of being for the people/politics has changed away.
He should quickly stop all gifting, like we see in so many other jobs and industries, he should say that it is all a bit stupid, and he should go back to putting the electorate first.
Saying he’ll stop accepting clothes is ridiculous. Makes it somehow sound worse.
Rayner should know all this. Being sent out to do his bidding and defend his popularity, when he doesn’t even like her is weird.
” Rayner described herself as a “yimby” on a national level”
Wtf does that even mean? Everyone is a “yimby” on a national level. That’s what nimby means.
They don’t help themselves do they
>*“Rachel wanted Dorneywood, I’m happy for Rachel to be using it. It was never an issue … I’m sure Rachel will let me go and visit Dorneywood if I want to. The idea that we’re going around fighting about mansions or whatever else … ”*
Politicians are just self serving let’s be honest.
Lol not when you keep acting like the people you replaced! Popular decisions Keep being missed by this government
I hate to say it, but this is not the PM the country voted for. Everyone (and I mean everyone that their out it) just wanted rid of the conservatives and Sunak. This is a protest prime minister, so we got exactly what that. He was never capable of being prime minister. We just couldn’t handle more of the conservatives!
Maybe, they need to take a page from the tories and make sure with every cutback or difficult decision that they remind people this is because of tory problems.
I don’t get how the Tories spent so long cutting funding for everything and yet we are still having to make cuts to stuff to ‘balance the books’.
They will if the government shows signs of competence, of putting the country back and track and dealing with the issues in it.
They won’t if the past month has been a sign of things to come. The mood of the country is not great. No one is hopeful. And then piling doom, gloom and warnings of “it will get worse before it gets better” is not going to win people over.
Stop telling everyone how everything is shit then.
His party have done some good stuff – best payrise for NHS staff in years, ended all(?) strikes. Something Tories never did. But it doesnt make much headlines when all you do is tell people virtually everyday how much debt the country is in and how life will be tougher now
Didn’t vote, nobody worth voting for in my eyes. However, I did think that while it was inevitable the tories were going to get voted out, I feel like *perhaps* they’d turned a corner and were starting to sort things out, and that people should be careful what they wished for…
I definitely hope to be proven wrong though.
She must have been on the cocktails since breakfast. Pissing off pensioners who remember & don’t forget is never a clever move.
Bounce back to what exactly,? He’s never been popular.
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/uj His popularity and that of Labour in general is less important, I think, than economic and social stability
/rj “We’ll regain trust gradually, but not before we vote on the National Service (for the over 65s) Bill and debate legislature for the enforced daily serving of tinned sprouts. These are tough decisions and yes, I understand that I’m lucky to be able to heat my yurt which is made from puppy skins”
The fact she even felt compelled to say this so early on in his Premiership is telling.
Haha wasn’t it a few days ago that Starmer had to say he’s in control?? Why are they saying stuff like this? They sound like they are a government on their last legs, not a newly elected one
tbh we’ll probs see another cameron situation in 2015,
growing dissatisfaction with the government, starting early on with austerity measures and student tuition fees,
but with the help from lib dems being destroyed and snp-lab coalition being likely, he edged thru to a maj from a minority position,
alot can happen but i feel for many moderate voters unless the tories have turned things around massively or reform somehow make themseleves appealing to the electorate beyond their base, many seats will stay lab, a lot less probably but likely a healthy maj
I won’t be voting Labour again, or Conservative either. This country is completely doomed. Incompetent leadership through and through.
People bounce back. Rolf Harris. Dennis Hopper. There are others.
He’s never been popular to begin with, bounce back from what lol
Democracy is nothing but Marketing for the Global Elites: The Bilderbergers.
Regardless of the rights or wrongs, the optics of taking money away from pensioners – in the minds of most folk pensioners are old grannies with a one bar electric fire – whilst at the same time having a 6 digit salary and a grace and favour mansion in the centre of London but getting tens of thousands of pounds in clothes, holidays, executive boxes, are horrendous.
The Tory leadership were vile, and Starmer trumpeted loudly about them accepting favours, helicopter rides and the rest whilst the country starved. Now they’re wiped away, he is starting to appear like an entitled hypocrite.
“People were so tolerant of the tories being corrupt for so long, I can’t see them being mad about the tories lite being corrupt too”. If Angela Rayner was honest.
Good luck. What’s the plan, tax everything and everything in the first year, continue fiscal drag until the year before election day and then suddenly say they’re the party committed to lowering taxes on working people in efforts to get re-elected? The Tories tries that and it didn’t work.
I think it’s time we replace both of these parties as they are clearly out of touch with voters. Reform UK is the natural alternative to the Tories, but who do the left have? The Lib Dems would likely be more of the same and the Greens would be a disaster. Time to change the system to PR I think.
I voted Labour this year with gritted teeth. Honestly, I voted because the Tories f*cked sh*t up so much I felt obliged.
Never again. I get the “cant fix it overnight” bullsh*t, but it’s time for both Labour and Tories to crash and burn into irrelevance. Neither group has what it takes to truly address and fix the issues we face.
All depends with the October budget and how they try and fix the NHS as well as matters that the nation actually care about.
Remember how few people actually voted for him in the first place.
That said, any new government was going to have to come in and make some difficult choices. I always suspected he’d have a dip early on. Then, in theory, you should be able to show your progress as it gets to election time. Not within 12 weeks.
When he came in, all boring, down to business, like the civil servant he should be, I honestly was glad, felt like we had someone finally there to do some actual work, but all this gifting stuff has wiped any notion of being for the people/politics has changed away.
He should quickly stop all gifting, like we see in so many other jobs and industries, he should say that it is all a bit stupid, and he should go back to putting the electorate first.
Saying he’ll stop accepting clothes is ridiculous. Makes it somehow sound worse.
Rayner should know all this. Being sent out to do his bidding and defend his popularity, when he doesn’t even like her is weird.
” Rayner described herself as a “yimby” on a national level”
Wtf does that even mean? Everyone is a “yimby” on a national level. That’s what nimby means.
They don’t help themselves do they
>*“Rachel wanted Dorneywood, I’m happy for Rachel to be using it. It was never an issue … I’m sure Rachel will let me go and visit Dorneywood if I want to. The idea that we’re going around fighting about mansions or whatever else … ”*
Politicians are just self serving let’s be honest.
Lol not when you keep acting like the people you replaced! Popular decisions Keep being missed by this government
she defended him here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFBgmmyM_uk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFBgmmyM_uk)
I hate to say it, but this is not the PM the country voted for. Everyone (and I mean everyone that their out it) just wanted rid of the conservatives and Sunak. This is a protest prime minister, so we got exactly what that. He was never capable of being prime minister. We just couldn’t handle more of the conservatives!
Maybe, they need to take a page from the tories and make sure with every cutback or difficult decision that they remind people this is because of tory problems.
I don’t get how the Tories spent so long cutting funding for everything and yet we are still having to make cuts to stuff to ‘balance the books’.
They will if the government shows signs of competence, of putting the country back and track and dealing with the issues in it.
They won’t if the past month has been a sign of things to come. The mood of the country is not great. No one is hopeful. And then piling doom, gloom and warnings of “it will get worse before it gets better” is not going to win people over.
Stop telling everyone how everything is shit then.
His party have done some good stuff – best payrise for NHS staff in years, ended all(?) strikes. Something Tories never did. But it doesnt make much headlines when all you do is tell people virtually everyday how much debt the country is in and how life will be tougher now
Didn’t vote, nobody worth voting for in my eyes. However, I did think that while it was inevitable the tories were going to get voted out, I feel like *perhaps* they’d turned a corner and were starting to sort things out, and that people should be careful what they wished for…
I definitely hope to be proven wrong though.
She must have been on the cocktails since breakfast. Pissing off pensioners who remember & don’t forget is never a clever move.
Bounce back to what exactly,? He’s never been popular.
The wheels have come off….
Keir Starmer’s Labour: “Same direction, slower speed”
He has only been in power for a few months.
Preparinging people for austerity round 2
Cancelling winter fuel payments
All this talk of tax increases
The gifts, clothes etc
The slumlord MP
It’s just a drip, drip of bad news.
Reddit’s left-wing echo chamber spent 4 years saying that about Biden and how did that turn out?