>The automotive industry is in the midst of a shift towards electric vehicles, and the European Union has been, at least for a while, a key driver of this change with its ambitious plan to ban the sale of new combustion engine cars starting in 2035.
>This policy faced recent pushback from some automakers and member states, but now a coalition of 50 companies, led by Volvo, is pressing the EU to stay the course.
Bullshit
Jokes on them i just traded my car for a camel đ« he consumes only 200 liters of water and lasts a whole week without refills.
Stop this madness! Let the customers decide what they want without any stupid regulation.
It is more important for policy to be consistent than exact. Maybe it would have been better to make it 2038 or in 5 years we might realize it should have been 2033.
We can’t push it back now. There are European companies that are investing into R&D and making and recycling batteries in EU with the knowledge that 2035 is 100% EVs. If we push it back, we will punish the companies that are innovating the most and reward the companies which don’t invest and instead lobby lawmakers.
Just as a heads up Volvo is mostly owned by Geely a Chinese car company so they want to go ahead with electric so china can dominate the electric car industry.
Donât by Chinese donât buy Volvo
The ice ban doesnât make sense. Itâs fine to advocate for non-polluting options, but itâs not acceptable to dictate how to achieve that, as there are other carbon-neutral technologies worth exploring. Saying “no” to everything but electric cars seems like a political move to benefit the automotive industry in China. I wonder how many received money based on their votes. Weâve seen reports of Qatar and Morocco giving money to EU parliament and commission members, so isnât it curious that no one is considering that China, a much larger and more influential country, might be doing the same?
No reason to turn back now Also 2035 is ten years from now, it’s not like some companies don’t have time to do it: they just don’t want to
Sod that. Ev’s have a place they shouldn’t be the only option.
Why they keep saying that EVs are VWAG’s problem? LoL. It’s not the EVs, it’s how to company is set up. Where VW had Golf before now they have what, 6 models in the same price range. How many factories and production lines you need to set up to produce 6 lines of cars. Now add other brands… Look how they set the charging for EVs; Skoda, VW, Audi, Seat, despite being in the same group and even being the same car (MEB), have each their own charging subscription networks which are all identical! They overcomplicated everything! Elli, owned by VWAG, produces home chargers, and the same charger is branded in 5-6 different ways! What the f.?!
hahahahaha someone somewhere must be happy with a forced reset of the car market by forcing ICE out. market was ” saturated ” with used cars afterall, can t have that
The ICE ban doesnât make much sense. Would be more reasonable ICE ban to company owner car fleets and selected city centers and thatâs it.
Also some counties are all in on EV, some brands as well, keeping ICE itâs bad long term for those brands event if gives you short term gains.
People don’t want expensive EV’s with tons of battery issues and questionable repairability and a worthless used market. This is the reason the EV used prices are so low. Hybrids are the future for short term, EV’s in a few years, once the battery technology allows for reliable batteries that don’t die in 5 years.
Whatâs changed that 2035 isnât realistic anymore other than the EU hasnât put enough support into the businesses converting to green manufacturing or startups in the industry?
2035 is as achievable now as it was when it was first agreed.
Stick to the goddamn plans you make.
Volvo just gave me a reason to boycott them. This is not North Korea where rules limit the choice of the people. ICE should be available for anyone who chooses them.
Chinese and American car companies are petitioning EU lol
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>The automotive industry is in the midst of a shift towards electric vehicles, and the European Union has been, at least for a while, a key driver of this change with its ambitious plan to ban the sale of new combustion engine cars starting in 2035.
>This policy faced recent pushback from some automakers and member states, but now a coalition of 50 companies, led by Volvo, is pressing the EU to stay the course.
Bullshit
Jokes on them i just traded my car for a camel đ« he consumes only 200 liters of water and lasts a whole week without refills.
Stop this madness! Let the customers decide what they want without any stupid regulation.
It is more important for policy to be consistent than exact. Maybe it would have been better to make it 2038 or in 5 years we might realize it should have been 2033.
We can’t push it back now. There are European companies that are investing into R&D and making and recycling batteries in EU with the knowledge that 2035 is 100% EVs. If we push it back, we will punish the companies that are innovating the most and reward the companies which don’t invest and instead lobby lawmakers.
Also [we aren’t alone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehicles#Countries). China, Taiwan, Japan are all also targetting 2035, it’s an achievable target.
Just as a heads up Volvo is mostly owned by Geely a Chinese car company so they want to go ahead with electric so china can dominate the electric car industry.
Donât by Chinese donât buy Volvo
The ice ban doesnât make sense. Itâs fine to advocate for non-polluting options, but itâs not acceptable to dictate how to achieve that, as there are other carbon-neutral technologies worth exploring. Saying “no” to everything but electric cars seems like a political move to benefit the automotive industry in China. I wonder how many received money based on their votes. Weâve seen reports of Qatar and Morocco giving money to EU parliament and commission members, so isnât it curious that no one is considering that China, a much larger and more influential country, might be doing the same?
No reason to turn back now
Also 2035 is ten years from now, it’s not like some companies don’t have time to do it: they just don’t want to
Sod that. Ev’s have a place they shouldn’t be the only option.
Why they keep saying that EVs are VWAG’s problem? LoL. It’s not the EVs, it’s how to company is set up. Where VW had Golf before now they have what, 6 models in the same price range. How many factories and production lines you need to set up to produce 6 lines of cars. Now add other brands… Look how they set the charging for EVs; Skoda, VW, Audi, Seat, despite being in the same group and even being the same car (MEB), have each their own charging subscription networks which are all identical! They overcomplicated everything! Elli, owned by VWAG, produces home chargers, and the same charger is branded in 5-6 different ways! What the f.?!
hahahahaha someone somewhere must be happy with a forced reset of the car market by forcing ICE out. market was ” saturated ” with used cars afterall, can t have that
The ICE ban doesnât make much sense. Would be more reasonable ICE ban to company owner car fleets and selected city centers and thatâs it.
Also some counties are all in on EV, some brands as well, keeping ICE itâs bad long term for those brands event if gives you short term gains.
People don’t want expensive EV’s with tons of battery issues and questionable repairability and a worthless used market. This is the reason the EV used prices are so low. Hybrids are the future for short term, EV’s in a few years, once the battery technology allows for reliable batteries that don’t die in 5 years.
Whatâs changed that 2035 isnât realistic anymore other than the EU hasnât put enough support into the businesses converting to green manufacturing or startups in the industry?
2035 is as achievable now as it was when it was first agreed.
Stick to the goddamn plans you make.
Volvo just gave me a reason to boycott them. This is not North Korea where rules limit the choice of the people. ICE should be available for anyone who chooses them.
Chinese and American car companies are petitioning EU lol