Post Match Thread: Arsenal 2-0 Paris Saint-Germain | UEFA Champions League.
October 1, 2024
Post Match Thread: Arsenal 2-0 Paris Saint-Germain | UEFA Champions League.
by DyMa_Nyx
27 comments
The fact that Hakimi was the best attacker just sums it up. Lee also did well in the second half
Only Hakimi, Nuno and Lee tried something. Kolo changed the game, made no sense not to start him; Gabriel and Saliba were worry free for 70 mins.
Could have been worse, Arsenal looks amazing. Donnarumma is still a liability and we look far away from the top teams
First of all : fuck every single reactionnary cunt that is hating right now for our first loss of the season. I don’t give a fuck about your opinions, but you guys make the shared viewing experience so insanely worse. I’m certainly not happy about tonight’s performance, but whining about every single move is just a dumb way to vent your rage. Just yell at your TV or something. On a similar note, while Dembele was obviously missed, the whole team was certainly not good enough to win even with a class performance by Dembele.
Now for the review. Not a lot of good things to say, but Hakimi has been immense, and WZE has been much better than his usual self. Vitinha and Neves have had a hard time achieving anything, they played so scared against Arsenal’s pressing. It looked like 2022 Vitinha was playing tonight. He has shown that he can be good against Barca or Dortmund in high pressure game, so we know he can do better than that.
Lee at 9 couldn’t nearly do it against one of the best european defense. Saliba is just a fucking rock, he’s been improving for the NT but the day he’s that good with the blue shirt, it will feel good to be a French football fan. Doué was a disaster, didn’t achieve a single difference. The step was clearly way too high for him, he needs to get used to the Ligue 1 before being played against one of Europe’s best defensive teams.
Overall, that game looks worse than it actually is. Donnarumma dropped the ball and didn’t stop two very saveable balls, while ours hit the woodwork. The game could have been very different, although Arsenal also stopped pressing because they were 2-0 up, so maybe we don’t get those chances if Donnarumma does his job.
I don’t expect us to achieve much with such a young team, but not getting out of groups would certainly be more than disappointing. So we’ll need to get a result against another one of the good teams we’ll face.
Final point, whatever people say, and despite how down everyone is, I much prefered watching this game than most of our game last year. Having 10 players on the field actually playing the game felt much better than either relying on a superstar, or watching a player jog while everyone else is giving 100%. We were the worse team today, but I still believe in the plan.
Another thing to point out is, while on the first half Barcola did fuck all on defence and could have done better on the 2nd goal, he was great on defence on the 2nd half
Why is PSG the biggest European team that has always had deadweight non-players? Donaruma has been flunking every UCL campaign, RKM is too nervous to even make a decent first touch and in Ligue1 matches too! There’s always one or two players in the starting lineup that make you cringe!
Thats what happens when you don’t bring your best attacker + please sell donnaruma this isn’t even reactionary the guy has not played a good ucl game in his life
This game, I think we missed Goncalo Ramos even more than Dembele. Not having a striker basically meant that their CBs were free to swivel on either sides during our attack. This meant Hakimi, Lee, Barcola would have to take on a minimum of 2-3 opponents – or pass back …
I just wish Ramos recovers soon.
Disappointed, in all honestly it wasn’t that bad, we played like we have been playing this past games, I felt the same issues, like a disconnect between the midfield and the attack, making it feel like we are no threat upfront, the only difference is that individualities have been able to score, but it was very difficult for that to happen against Arsenal.
Tldr; Bad result, bad game but not an awful performance with still room to improve.
Now if you allow me, I’m going to massacre some Xenos in the name of the Emperor in retaliation of this result.
Gyokeres
Nuno Mendes & Achraf Hakimi can hold their heads up high. Threatened Arsenal’s backline with their pace and dribbling. Everyone else was off it imo. I think not pairing Barcola with RKM was Enrique’s worst misjudgment going into this game. Kolo would’ve bothered Arsenal’s CB given his size and stature. Then we also need pace in behind and Kolo’s pretty quick with his movement, so not starting Randal was a strange decision. Fabian also should’ve came on much earlier. Arsenal didn’t need to break into second gear for this game and we made it too easy for them, the lack of physicality and the difference in height was genuinely hilarious. It’s not the end of the world however. I still think we’ll make it out, we just need to be very cautious.
Like I said last season’s UCL run was a fluke.
We don’t have the level. Lucho has also been subpar for all his experience we don’t look like a team that can rise through occasion against the best. We need better players and more experience.
Can we please stop overreacting every time we lose 😂
Donnarumna is good enough for L1 and making miraculous save when already down 0-2. His aerial abilities are too much of a downside at the highest level…
We lost to a more expensive and experienced team further ahead of us in their project, so let’s not be too reactionary or harsh. We also got screwed over by the ref and hit the post a few times. With that being said:
Our right side, which is supposed to be our deadliest, offered very little in attack with Dembele gone. I don’t necessarily think we would’ve won with him, but it’s hard to deny he’s our best attacker and we absolutely need him for every big game. I hope he’s learned his lesson. Doue clearly isn’t fit yet for this spot, and it was just Hakimi running down this side tonight.
Our whole midfield had a terrible day. I’m confident that our trio will be world class one day, but we really overrated ourselves. They’re still young and need time to develop.
I really, really don’t like it when we end up having only three at the back. It doesn’t matter if it’s Pacho or Beraldo covering for Nuno when he’s attacking, we really need four defenders against top opponents. Our left flank got absolutely torn up today.
The goalkeeper should theoretically be the least important position, but there needs to be more competition for this spot. Raya is a world class goalkeeper, Donna is not.
Lee needs to make more of those longballs he makes in Ligue 1 against UCL teams. We saw a few of those tonight, but not enough. I still think he was one of the two best players though, alongside Hakimi.
There’s not much we can do about our players being short against taller opponents unless we want to sell the entire midfield + a few others.
We were dealt a bad hand and we lost. The players and Lucho will learn and get better.
Just appreciate Neves. Always giving an option for the CBs and helping moving the ball forward. He’s consistently one of our best players already
We should go all in for Vin Dijk next summer. Set pieces are by far our biggest problem and with him we would be 20% better. Another GK would be nice too. Dembele and Ramos was missed badly tonight. We have room to improve but I think QF is the limit for this team. With right decisions next summer, this team can get to another level.
I thought Lee was very mid in the first half, but in the second half he was much better playing as a CM rather than a false 9. He provided some good crosses in the box, but we lack a striker with killer instinct. RKM was a refreshing presence with his pace and height, but why is he always so nervous? His problem has more to do with mentality than skills. Barcola looked like a lone threat from time to time, but we really missed Dembouz as the right wind was absent and Barcola was asked to dribble through 3-4 people. Neves and WZE were fine, but not exceptional. WZE esp looked a bit off with his passes. Nuno probably should be a winger or attacking mid fielder, he really tried but the second goal was on him (his silly tackle on Saka). Donna could’ve/should’ve cleared at least one of the two goals. Do you guys think Safonov would have done any better?
you watch kobel, raya, courtois and even lunin on his little stint last season and wonder how so many still back donnaruma after this many years of failing the team every time the lights shine bright
Doué is too green for that, RKM was having better performances, he should have started…
Arsenal is a good team. This isn’t the end of the world. I’m expecting better performances at home.
However… I’m getting really tired of sub-par performances from our goalies in the CL. I miss Navas, Landreau, Alonso, and Sirigu.
Luis Enrique refusing to explain his tactics to Canal+ because « they wouldn’t understand » is horseshit attitude IMO. How can you keep Mendes that low when he’s our most dangerous player and play Lee as a false 9 and still ask Doué and Barcola to be glued to the sidelines? I’m a bit tired with his condescending tone. It’d be fine if he had won but his team is not progressing in critical areas of the game.
Second half looked alot better, just take it in stride, the team is young and will get better. Hakimi stood out today, with any luck he might of got us back level. Lets give a new keeper a shot, Dona has great length and has good snap saves, but has poor timing other wise.
Also trying to play out of the back so casually when Arsenal was closing the space so quickly was wild to me. like sure you got the pass off(marqui), but you have fucked your teammate and the next teammate to receive the ball as they are both now compromised
We probably would’ve lost even if Dembele played, but the game showed that we really don’t have a backup for Dembele. We didn’t look good in the first half but let’s not forget that some of these players are just back from injury: Vitinha, Doue, Donnarumma. For the striker position, I guess we’ll have to go back to the drawing board – I think we’ll go back to playing Asensio but I’m not sure if false 9 works against top teams. Or we can give RKM another chance.
We’ll have to play better in our other games.
* What a disaster of a 1st half
* I miss Ramos!
* I KNEW WE’D CONCEDE A HEADER
* I’m super surprised we didn’t go down the right more with Hakimi. That’s when we looked the most dangerous. Plus some of our vertical play in the 2nd half was good.
* I disagree with some of the comments. We would have done a lot better with Dembele in the squad.
* This ought to be a good learning experience.
* We suck against English teams not named Chelsea.
We conceded goals that weren’t the result of arsenal’s quality…we just did it to ourselves mostly…
People in that rsoccer match thread and in general have not watched a single PSG ucl group game if they think mbappe was missing here
I remember so many frustrating ucl games last season with him unless im trippin, like either he was getting triple teamed or other times he was poor
27 comments
The fact that Hakimi was the best attacker just sums it up. Lee also did well in the second half
Only Hakimi, Nuno and Lee tried something. Kolo changed the game, made no sense not to start him; Gabriel and Saliba were worry free for 70 mins.
Could have been worse, Arsenal looks amazing. Donnarumma is still a liability and we look far away from the top teams
First of all : fuck every single reactionnary cunt that is hating right now for our first loss of the season. I don’t give a fuck about your opinions, but you guys make the shared viewing experience so insanely worse. I’m certainly not happy about tonight’s performance, but whining about every single move is just a dumb way to vent your rage. Just yell at your TV or something. On a similar note, while Dembele was obviously missed, the whole team was certainly not good enough to win even with a class performance by Dembele.
Now for the review. Not a lot of good things to say, but Hakimi has been immense, and WZE has been much better than his usual self. Vitinha and Neves have had a hard time achieving anything, they played so scared against Arsenal’s pressing. It looked like 2022 Vitinha was playing tonight. He has shown that he can be good against Barca or Dortmund in high pressure game, so we know he can do better than that.
Lee at 9 couldn’t nearly do it against one of the best european defense. Saliba is just a fucking rock, he’s been improving for the NT but the day he’s that good with the blue shirt, it will feel good to be a French football fan. Doué was a disaster, didn’t achieve a single difference. The step was clearly way too high for him, he needs to get used to the Ligue 1 before being played against one of Europe’s best defensive teams.
Overall, that game looks worse than it actually is. Donnarumma dropped the ball and didn’t stop two very saveable balls, while ours hit the woodwork. The game could have been very different, although Arsenal also stopped pressing because they were 2-0 up, so maybe we don’t get those chances if Donnarumma does his job.
I don’t expect us to achieve much with such a young team, but not getting out of groups would certainly be more than disappointing. So we’ll need to get a result against another one of the good teams we’ll face.
Final point, whatever people say, and despite how down everyone is, I much prefered watching this game than most of our game last year. Having 10 players on the field actually playing the game felt much better than either relying on a superstar, or watching a player jog while everyone else is giving 100%. We were the worse team today, but I still believe in the plan.
How in the world is this not a pen?
I feel for you lot. Awful refereeing
https://imgur.com/a/hWeRoke
Another thing to point out is, while on the first half Barcola did fuck all on defence and could have done better on the 2nd goal, he was great on defence on the 2nd half
Why is PSG the biggest European team that has always had deadweight non-players? Donaruma has been flunking every UCL campaign, RKM is too nervous to even make a decent first touch and in Ligue1 matches too! There’s always one or two players in the starting lineup that make you cringe!
Thats what happens when you don’t bring your best attacker + please sell donnaruma this isn’t even reactionary the guy has not played a good ucl game in his life
This game, I think we missed Goncalo Ramos even more than Dembele. Not having a striker basically meant that their CBs were free to swivel on either sides during our attack. This meant Hakimi, Lee, Barcola would have to take on a minimum of 2-3 opponents – or pass back …
I just wish Ramos recovers soon.
Disappointed, in all honestly it wasn’t that bad, we played like we have been playing this past games, I felt the same issues, like a disconnect between the midfield and the attack, making it feel like we are no threat upfront, the only difference is that individualities have been able to score, but it was very difficult for that to happen against Arsenal.
Tldr; Bad result, bad game but not an awful performance with still room to improve.
Now if you allow me, I’m going to massacre some Xenos in the name of the Emperor in retaliation of this result.
Gyokeres
Nuno Mendes & Achraf Hakimi can hold their heads up high. Threatened Arsenal’s backline with their pace and dribbling. Everyone else was off it imo. I think not pairing Barcola with RKM was Enrique’s worst misjudgment going into this game. Kolo would’ve bothered Arsenal’s CB given his size and stature. Then we also need pace in behind and Kolo’s pretty quick with his movement, so not starting Randal was a strange decision. Fabian also should’ve came on much earlier. Arsenal didn’t need to break into second gear for this game and we made it too easy for them, the lack of physicality and the difference in height was genuinely hilarious. It’s not the end of the world however. I still think we’ll make it out, we just need to be very cautious.
Like I said last season’s UCL run was a fluke.
We don’t have the level. Lucho has also been subpar for all his experience we don’t look like a team that can rise through occasion against the best. We need better players and more experience.
Can we please stop overreacting every time we lose 😂
Donnarumna is good enough for L1 and making miraculous save when already down 0-2. His aerial abilities are too much of a downside at the highest level…
We lost to a more expensive and experienced team further ahead of us in their project, so let’s not be too reactionary or harsh. We also got screwed over by the ref and hit the post a few times. With that being said:
Our right side, which is supposed to be our deadliest, offered very little in attack with Dembele gone. I don’t necessarily think we would’ve won with him, but it’s hard to deny he’s our best attacker and we absolutely need him for every big game. I hope he’s learned his lesson. Doue clearly isn’t fit yet for this spot, and it was just Hakimi running down this side tonight.
Our whole midfield had a terrible day. I’m confident that our trio will be world class one day, but we really overrated ourselves. They’re still young and need time to develop.
I really, really don’t like it when we end up having only three at the back. It doesn’t matter if it’s Pacho or Beraldo covering for Nuno when he’s attacking, we really need four defenders against top opponents. Our left flank got absolutely torn up today.
The goalkeeper should theoretically be the least important position, but there needs to be more competition for this spot. Raya is a world class goalkeeper, Donna is not.
Lee needs to make more of those longballs he makes in Ligue 1 against UCL teams. We saw a few of those tonight, but not enough. I still think he was one of the two best players though, alongside Hakimi.
There’s not much we can do about our players being short against taller opponents unless we want to sell the entire midfield + a few others.
We were dealt a bad hand and we lost. The players and Lucho will learn and get better.
Just appreciate Neves. Always giving an option for the CBs and helping moving the ball forward. He’s consistently one of our best players already
We should go all in for Vin Dijk next summer. Set pieces are by far our biggest problem and with him we would be 20% better. Another GK would be nice too. Dembele and Ramos was missed badly tonight. We have room to improve but I think QF is the limit for this team. With right decisions next summer, this team can get to another level.
I thought Lee was very mid in the first half, but in the second half he was much better playing as a CM rather than a false 9. He provided some good crosses in the box, but we lack a striker with killer instinct. RKM was a refreshing presence with his pace and height, but why is he always so nervous? His problem has more to do with mentality than skills. Barcola looked like a lone threat from time to time, but we really missed Dembouz as the right wind was absent and Barcola was asked to dribble through 3-4 people. Neves and WZE were fine, but not exceptional. WZE esp looked a bit off with his passes. Nuno probably should be a winger or attacking mid fielder, he really tried but the second goal was on him (his silly tackle on Saka). Donna could’ve/should’ve cleared at least one of the two goals. Do you guys think Safonov would have done any better?
you watch kobel, raya, courtois and even lunin on his little stint last season and wonder how so many still back donnaruma after this many years of failing the team every time the lights shine bright
Doué is too green for that, RKM was having better performances, he should have started…
Arsenal is a good team. This isn’t the end of the world. I’m expecting better performances at home.
However… I’m getting really tired of sub-par performances from our goalies in the CL. I miss Navas, Landreau, Alonso, and Sirigu.
Luis Enrique refusing to explain his tactics to Canal+ because « they wouldn’t understand » is horseshit attitude IMO. How can you keep Mendes that low when he’s our most dangerous player and play Lee as a false 9 and still ask Doué and Barcola to be glued to the sidelines? I’m a bit tired with his condescending tone. It’d be fine if he had won but his team is not progressing in critical areas of the game.
Second half looked alot better, just take it in stride, the team is young and will get better. Hakimi stood out today, with any luck he might of got us back level. Lets give a new keeper a shot, Dona has great length and has good snap saves, but has poor timing other wise.
Also trying to play out of the back so casually when Arsenal was closing the space so quickly was wild to me. like sure you got the pass off(marqui), but you have fucked your teammate and the next teammate to receive the ball as they are both now compromised
We probably would’ve lost even if Dembele played, but the game showed that we really don’t have a backup for Dembele. We didn’t look good in the first half but let’s not forget that some of these players are just back from injury: Vitinha, Doue, Donnarumma. For the striker position, I guess we’ll have to go back to the drawing board – I think we’ll go back to playing Asensio but I’m not sure if false 9 works against top teams. Or we can give RKM another chance.
We’ll have to play better in our other games.
* What a disaster of a 1st half
* I miss Ramos!
* I KNEW WE’D CONCEDE A HEADER
* I’m super surprised we didn’t go down the right more with Hakimi. That’s when we looked the most dangerous. Plus some of our vertical play in the 2nd half was good.
* I disagree with some of the comments. We would have done a lot better with Dembele in the squad.
* This ought to be a good learning experience.
* We suck against English teams not named Chelsea.
We conceded goals that weren’t the result of arsenal’s quality…we just did it to ourselves mostly…
People in that rsoccer match thread and in general have not watched a single PSG ucl group game if they think mbappe was missing here
I remember so many frustrating ucl games last season with him unless im trippin, like either he was getting triple teamed or other times he was poor