Anne Applebaum: “In recent weeks, Russian glide bombs and artillery have slowly begun to destroy the city of Pokrovsk, a logistical hub that has been part of Ukraine’s defensive line in Donetsk for a decade. Regular waves of Russian air strikes continue to hit Ukraine’s electricity infrastructure. The repeated attacks on civilians are not an accident; they are a tactic. Russian President Vladimir Putin is seeking to deprive Ukrainians of heat and light, to demoralize the people as well as the government, and perhaps to provoke a new refugee exodus that will disrupt European politics. [https://theatln.tc/m5bXsj8M](https://theatln.tc/m5bXsj8M)
“Russia remains the larger and richer country. The Kremlin has more ammunition, more tanks, and a greater willingness to dispose of its citizens. The Russian president is willing to tolerate high human losses, as well as equipment losses, of a kind that almost no other nation could accept. And yet, the Ukrainians still believe they can win—if only their American and European allies will let them.
“Two and a half years into the conflict, the idea that we haven’t let Ukraine win may sound strange. Since the beginning of the war, after all, we have been supporting Ukraine with weapons and other aid. Recently, President Joe Biden reiterated his support for Ukraine at the United Nations. ‘The good news is that Putin’s war has failed in his core aim,’ he said. But, he added, ‘the world now has another choice to make: Will we sustain our support to help Ukraine win this war and preserve its freedom, or walk away and let a nation be destroyed? We cannot grow weary. We cannot look away.’ Hoping to rally more Americans to his side, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spent much of last week in the United States. He visited an ammunition factory in Pennsylvania. He met with former President Donald Trump, and with Vice President Kamala Harris.
“… Instead of focusing on victory, Americans and Europeans continue to dream of a magic “negotiated solution” that remains far away. Many, many people, some in good faith and some in bad faith, continue to call for an exchange of ‘land for peace.’
“Right now, the actual obstacle is Putin. Indeed, none of these advocates for ‘peace,’ whether they come from the Quincy Institute, the Trump campaign, the Council on Foreign Relations, or even within the U.S. government, can explain how they will persuade Russia to accept such a deal. It is the Russians who have to be persuaded to stop fighting. It is the Russians who do not want to end the war.”
former nato sec gen is saying this deal. get ukraine to nato. and do a peace treaty. but same problem like in article. russia will never agree.
So the article merely repeats Zelensky’s “I refuse to accept any negotiations and any outcomes that do not lead to total victory, and you should support me in this”.
If we let Ukraine join NATO doesn’t anyone worry that we’ll end up in a nuclear war.
The only way to defeat a bully is to punch him in the nose, send him down and keep him down. Waiting and hoping the Russian people will rise up for regime change is wishful thinking. Take the gloves off, let the Ukrainians fight to win. And maybe they can’t win, but Putin has to be afraid he doesn’t have the resources to win the long game. Weaken them enough to make regime change realistically possible.
War in Ukraine is the new “war on terrorism”.
The people running US, people who own the military industrial complex, the financial elites…
will keep this war going as long as possible.
They only profit from it.
Some Ukrainians die… who gives a fk..
some Ruskies die.. even less..
they keep selling.. they keep spreading their influence.. they keep buying land and property at 100x less value then it was..
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Anne Applebaum: “In recent weeks, Russian glide bombs and artillery have slowly begun to destroy the city of Pokrovsk, a logistical hub that has been part of Ukraine’s defensive line in Donetsk for a decade. Regular waves of Russian air strikes continue to hit Ukraine’s electricity infrastructure. The repeated attacks on civilians are not an accident; they are a tactic. Russian President Vladimir Putin is seeking to deprive Ukrainians of heat and light, to demoralize the people as well as the government, and perhaps to provoke a new refugee exodus that will disrupt European politics. [https://theatln.tc/m5bXsj8M](https://theatln.tc/m5bXsj8M)
“Russia remains the larger and richer country. The Kremlin has more ammunition, more tanks, and a greater willingness to dispose of its citizens. The Russian president is willing to tolerate high human losses, as well as equipment losses, of a kind that almost no other nation could accept. And yet, the Ukrainians still believe they can win—if only their American and European allies will let them.
“Two and a half years into the conflict, the idea that we haven’t let Ukraine win may sound strange. Since the beginning of the war, after all, we have been supporting Ukraine with weapons and other aid. Recently, President Joe Biden reiterated his support for Ukraine at the United Nations. ‘The good news is that Putin’s war has failed in his core aim,’ he said. But, he added, ‘the world now has another choice to make: Will we sustain our support to help Ukraine win this war and preserve its freedom, or walk away and let a nation be destroyed? We cannot grow weary. We cannot look away.’ Hoping to rally more Americans to his side, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spent much of last week in the United States. He visited an ammunition factory in Pennsylvania. He met with former President Donald Trump, and with Vice President Kamala Harris.
“… Instead of focusing on victory, Americans and Europeans continue to dream of a magic “negotiated solution” that remains far away. Many, many people, some in good faith and some in bad faith, continue to call for an exchange of ‘land for peace.’
“Right now, the actual obstacle is Putin. Indeed, none of these advocates for ‘peace,’ whether they come from the Quincy Institute, the Trump campaign, the Council on Foreign Relations, or even within the U.S. government, can explain how they will persuade Russia to accept such a deal. It is the Russians who have to be persuaded to stop fighting. It is the Russians who do not want to end the war.”
Read more: [https://theatln.tc/m5bXsj8M](https://theatln.tc/m5bXsj8M)
former nato sec gen is saying this deal. get ukraine to nato. and do a peace treaty. but same problem like in article. russia will never agree.
So the article merely repeats Zelensky’s “I refuse to accept any negotiations and any outcomes that do not lead to total victory, and you should support me in this”.
If we let Ukraine join NATO doesn’t anyone worry that we’ll end up in a nuclear war.
The only way to defeat a bully is to punch him in the nose, send him down and keep him down. Waiting and hoping the Russian people will rise up for regime change is wishful thinking. Take the gloves off, let the Ukrainians fight to win. And maybe they can’t win, but Putin has to be afraid he doesn’t have the resources to win the long game. Weaken them enough to make regime change realistically possible.
War in Ukraine is the new “war on terrorism”.
The people running US, people who own the military industrial complex, the financial elites…
will keep this war going as long as possible.
They only profit from it.
Some Ukrainians die… who gives a fk..
some Ruskies die.. even less..
they keep selling.. they keep spreading their influence.. they keep buying land and property at 100x less value then it was..
why end it?