In the 2024 Election, the Green Party Is Not the Green Choice

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/don-t-vote-green-in-2024

by crustose_lichen

21 comments
  1. This article is actually waste on the people in this sub. But thank you for trying anyway.

    Edit: word

  2. Vote for Green Party is a vote for trump, who has a plan for environmental destruction

  3. This sub is full of liberal shills who will fingerwag actual progressives and leftists into the ground. American politics are so petty and mediocre.

    Vote Green if you want to. Vote Green if Dems and Reps don’t serve you. Votes can be earned, they don’t have to be given.

  4. Sorry, random DC lobbyist, but I won’t vote for fracking, pipelines over indigenous land, or more leasing of public land for drilling.

  5. In Arizona we have an extremely pivotal race that’s going to determine whether we hit net zero or don’t. Our public utility board is elected, the majority of the board are up for reelection in 2024 (3/5 members). It currently has a republican majority (4/5) who voted to gut energy efficiency rules, eliminate our renewable energy standard, and raise prices for consumers on rooftop solar. 

    We have three candidates, if elected, who would reverse the trend, foster more renewable energy, phase out coal, and give ratepayers relief from rate increases. They have been campaigning hard, building connections across communities in our state, and stand a reasonable chance of getting elected. We need all three elected. If we just get one or two, there will be no climate change mitigation for Arizona. 

    And then we have the greens… 

    The Green Party, despite having a race with three open seats, fielded two candidates. Their campaigns have been absolutely non-serious. They have not had campaign events, they did not provide candidate statements through Arizona Clean Elections mailers, they did not provide cover photos, they did not set up a website. What they did do is set up a Facebook page one month before the election. The content mentions climate change as an important issue, then talks about Gaza and Israel’s occupation of Palestine, issues that resonate with progressives, but have nothing to do with public utility regulation. 

    My fear is that all the get out the vote efforts will lead to more green votes, causing republicans to get the plurality and win the election. People will see a Facebook post with nice statements, and vote for a choice designed to redirect them from supporting serious candidates who will make meaningful contributions if elected. 

    Do not vote green. No politician ever acted the way you wanted because you made a protest vote. A vote for green is a vote for big oil, fracking, and indefinite coal use. They are an absolute mess, run completely non-serious campaigns designed to tip elections in favor of fossil fuel candidates, and a complete disaster for climate. 

  6. I think Sam Seder put it best when he said they’re just not a serious party – and have made few efforts to grow their ground game significantly over the last decade at multiple levels of government.

    They have no use other than to be a Republican-donor funded spoiler party. And if you want the worst possible environmental policies, help elect a Republican.

  7. Biden/Harris and the Democratic congress of 2021-2022 got the IRA done–the biggest ever investment into clean energy and energy efficiency! As VP, Kamala Harris cast the deciding vote to pass it. And as a result, the country has vastly stepped up its progress in abandoning fossil fuels.

    Trump has vowed to kill the IRA, the core of America’s climate-change agenda. If he can’t kill it, he’ll use the power of the presidency to undermine it. And if his first term is any guide, he will sabotage plenty of other environmental protections, and do everything he can to promote fossil fuels.

    The only way these environmental protections stay in place is if Kamala Harris is elected. Staying home or voting for any other candidate is effectively a vote for a hotter planet.

  8. The previous post on this subject attracted the attention of Russian/maga trolls and I suspect this one will as well. No surprise as targeting the left was a big part of building the MAGA movement and their winning strategy in 2016 -targeting Bernie supporters etc. Steve Bannon took credit for it and those fascists continue to implement that strategy today.

    Unfortunately for Bannon and Trump, I have seen plenty of evidence that many of those who may have been fooled in 2016 have learned something since then.. The choice, as you know, are Trump or Harris. Look at your sample ballots, make a plan to vote and don’t forget about the importance of the “down ballot”.

  9. The point of voting for Stein is to derail a genocidal corporatist party that has no intention of implementing the systematic change required to handle the climate emergency. The hysteria coming from Blue MAGA proves that the movement has power.

  10. They are a waste of space at best and just the spoiler party funded by questionable sources at best

    I would love a third party to emerge but wasting time and resources on the presidency instead of actually building a coalition at the state level and then the national level is very telling

  11. I’m the most environmentally-focused person around and I would never waste my vote on that divisive attention whore.

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